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My hot take is that the 9070 XT at $600 will do OK as long as they can ship at MSRP and nvidia can't, but would have been more impressive at $500 or even $550. The 9070 non-XT seems DOA at $550. The most I've ever spent on a GPU is about $300 and I don't really see that changing any time soon. (And that was for a 70-class card, so...)
Totally, the non-XT is the medium soda.
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I’ve never used DLSS or ray tracing or whatever Nvidia cooks up. I don’t know a single person that cares about those features and I know a lot of gamers.
Nowdays a lot of people care if you want decent fps without expensive setup.
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> not AI developers Yet their slides show INT8 and INT8 with Sparsity performance improvements. As well as "Supercharged AI Performance".
Those features are probably used by FSR4. The 9070 isn't very attractive for LLMs though.
The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…
I read somewhere that Radeon jumped to 9000-something for this generation to align with current Ryzen 9000 series CPUs (Ryzen 8000 wasn't a thing either, last I checked). Lets see if next gen Radeons match next gen Ryzens.
EDIT: confirmed, found slides from CES posted in articles like these:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2568373/amds-radeon-rx-9070-...
https://www.techspot.com/news/106208-amd-reveals-rdna4-archi...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-previews-RDNA-4-with-new-R...
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> Both AMD and Intel provide well maintained open-source drivers for many years[1]. Nvidia doesn't. You need to use closed-source drivers with Nvidia in practice. Is that what this is? https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
Nvidia drivers are not open source. Nvidia has open-sourced the kernel module "driver", which recently have been declared stable enough for general consumption. But the kernel-mode driver is only a small part of what you would call the graphics card driver, and the bulk of it is still very much a proprietary blob. The true open source driver for NV cards is Noveau[1] which works ok with older cards but is slow to sup…
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> On Linux, AMD is far ahead. Depends on a metric. I found Nvidia drivers to be better on every platform. It's just because it's closed-source it's PITA to install and update, but everything in between is great. I've switched to AMD for religious reasons, tho. Even update story is worse on Windows for AMD, at least it was when I had RX 6900 XT.
When I was using my 1080Ti on Debian with the official driver, I would frequently have problems on screen 2 where there seemed to be no video acceleration. I could fix this temporarily through some setting in the Nvidia drivers but it would stop working after a reboot. I had several bad updates (this was when using Fedora) and was left with graphics 30 minutes before I had to start work, I ended up plugging in a real…
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When I was using my 1080Ti on Debian with the official driver, I would frequently have problems on screen 2 where there seemed to be no video acceleration. I could fix this temporarily through some setting in the Nvidia drivers but it would stop working after a reboot. I had several bad updates (this was when using Fedora) and was left with graphics 30 minutes before I had to start work, I ended up plugging in a real…
Since it was a debian, i have to ask - was a driver 10 years old already when you used it? I also had 1080 Ti (and a regular 1080), worked flawlessly in: Windows 10, FreeBSD, NixOS. I don't recall versions I ran tho.
No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day
rocminfo:
**** Agent 2 **** Name: gfx1201 Uuid: GPU-cea119534ea1127a Marketing Name: AMD Radeon Graphics Vendor Name: AMD Feature: KERNEL_DISPATCH Profile: BASE_PROFILE Float Round Mode: NEAR Max Queue Number: 128(0x80) Queue Min Size: 64(0x40) Queue Max Size: 131072(0x20000)
[32.624s](rocm-venv) a@Shark:~/github/TheRock$ ./build/dist/rocm/bin/rocm-smi
======================================== ROCm System Management Interface ======================================== ================================================== Concise Info ================================================== Device Node IDs Temp Power Partitions SCLK MCLK Fan Perf PwrCap VRAM% GPU% (DID, GUID) (Edge) (Avg) (Mem, Compute, ID) ================================================================================================================== 0 2 0x73a5, 59113 N/A N/A N/A, N/A, 0 N/A N/A 0% unknown N/A 0% 0% 1 1 0x7550, 24524 36.0°C 2.0W N/A, N/A, 0 0Mhz 96Mhz 0% auto 245.0W 4% 0% ================================================================================================================== ============================================== End of ROCm SMI Log ===============================================
The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…
> Like what happened to 8000 series? And also isn't it confusing to partially change the naming scheme? Any guesses what the next generation will be called? I read somewhere that Radeon jumped to 9000-something for this generation to align with current Ryzen 9000 series CPUs (Ryzen 8000 wasn't a thing either, last I checked). Lets see if next gen Radeons match next gen Ryzens. EDIT: confirmed, found slides from CES p…
Ryzen 6000 series was all mobile.
The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…
I do agreed it's confusing though, when they were already using a three digit naming convention for iGPUs (like the Radeon 880M - the M made it clear it was a mobile chip).
[1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-8040S-Benchmarks...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-8040S-Benchmarks...