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Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by foxandmouse »

zokier wrote: post #114

The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…

They've got a pretty amazing apu that just came out and competes with the M series macbooks based on early benchmarks. The name of this APU: AMD Ryzen AI MAX 300 "Strix Halo"

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Post by tomtom1337 »

connicpu wrote: post #128
zamalek wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I helped a friend install Linux last year; they had an NVIDIA card, aaaand they had problems. Both in X and Wayland. I'm was on a 6000 series at the time and it worked great, as you know. I am on a 7000 series now, and it's as smooth as ice. AMD is the way to go for Linux. There's that new NVIDIA driver cooking, but I'm not sure what the status is on it. BTW, even Ryzen 3 is a substantial upgrade over 1. Any X3D proc…

I run Arch on my home desktop so I get the very latest stuff pretty quickly, the latest drivers have improved the nvidia situation a LOT. I've found everything pretty stable for the most part over the past month. Multi-monitor VRR was still having problems for me but I just installed a driver update that supposedly has bug-fixes for it so I'll be trying that out later tonight.

Which GPU Are you running on? I just got a 4080 SUPER and I’m thinking of trying Linux with it.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by christkv »

foxandmouse wrote: post #141
zokier wrote: post #114

The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…

They've got a pretty amazing apu that just came out and competes with the M series macbooks based on early benchmarks. The name of this APU: AMD Ryzen AI MAX 300 "Strix Halo"

I thought it was the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by dragonwriter »

PedroBatista wrote: post #55
imtringued wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy used nvidia tesla p40 with 24GB from 2016 and unlike AMD, they still have CUDA support. The only thing they are missing is support for the latest data types like fp8.

I don't know if I'm in a parallel Universe or hallucinating, but these are graphics cards, designed and created for people to install in they deskop PCs and run games. Just like they have been doing it for decades now. What's with the P40, CUDA and fp8? Seriously people, chill. AI has been using graphics cards because that was the best available route at the time, not the other way around. Otherwise I must question,…

> I don't know if I'm in a parallel Universe or hallucinating, but these are graphics cards, designed and created for people to install in they deskop PCs and run games.

Graphics cards have been for more then running games even before they were broad-purpose computer engines that they have been since NVidia radically reshaped the market—decades ago.

Heck, Nvidia has had multipe driver series for the same cards because of this, even before AI was a major driver.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by AnotherGoodName »

zokier wrote: post #114

The hardware itself seems like it will be welcome in the market. But I find AMD GPU launches so frustrating, the branding is all over the place and it feels like there is never any consistent generational series. Instead you get these seemingly random individual product launches that slot somewhere in the market, but you never know what comes next. In comparison nVidia has had pretty consistent naming since 200 serie…

You forgot a couple too, eg.

The Radeon VII which is really just a RX Vega variant made on TSMC rather than Samsung nodes but has entirely new branding for that model that doesn't mention Vega in the name.

The Radeon R9 Fury, Fury X, R9 Nano and Radeon Pro Duo which are really just 300 series but all of those have entirely new branding just for those models that don't mention the 300 series convention in their names. You also can't tell at a glance which are better.

It is a fucking mess. They cannot for the life of them stick to a convention.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by Thaxll »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #122
Thaxll wrote: post #14

The problem is that AMD is nowhere close to DLSS performance/quality, AMD cards are good for rasterization but it's not enough. The other thing is that most game don't implement FSR because 90%+ cards are nvidia.

I’ve never used DLSS or ray tracing or whatever Nvidia cooks up. I don’t know a single person that cares about those features and I know a lot of gamers.

Nowdays a lot of people care if you want decent fps without expensive setup.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by qwertox »

So Framework launches with Ryzen AI Max+ 395 with Radeon 8060S Graphics which has RDNA 3.5.

RDNA 4 has a 2x performance gain over 3.5 (4x with Sparsity) at FP16.

It just makes it all harder (the picking and choosing). Let's see what Project DIGITS brings once it launches.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by dualboot »

ryao wrote: post #45
righthand wrote: post #26

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They are not a myth, those cards frequently have issues with newer hardware and a whole handful of issues wayland itself such as screen tearing.

I am running Wayland on a 3090 Ti and there are zero tearing issues in KDE plasma 6.2. I do not know what you mean by “issues with newer hardware”. It has always worked just as well on Linux as it worked on Windows as far as I know.

The 3090Ti, while still an excellent card is hardly "newer hardware" at this point in 2025.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by qwertox »

packetlost wrote: post #85
wronglebowski wrote: post #48

No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day

This card is marketed to consumers, not AI developers. Most people who will buy these cards don't even know what ROCm is. Edit: it just doesn't matter for launch day. It'll likely be supported eventually.

> not AI developers

Yet their slides show INT8 and INT8 with Sparsity performance improvements. As well as "Supercharged AI Performance".

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Post by condenser »

ryao wrote: post #62
condenser wrote: post #53

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I have both a modern Radeon and Nvidia card in my PC. Radeon overall offers a smoother desktop experience, and works fine with gaming, including proton-enabled games on Steam. OpenCL via rocm works decent, with some occasional crashes, in Darktable. Support for AI-frameworks like jax is however very lacking, and I spent many days struggling to get it to work well, before giving up and buying a nvidia card. geohot's r…

I use KDE plasma and experience no microstutter with a Nvidia graphics card. Is there an open gnome issue for your issue on gnome?

I'm not sure, but I've found a couple of reports at nvidia's linux forum and their github issue tracker. This is with the open source kernel module & wayland. It's possible that X11 with the closed source module works better, but I prefer wayland.
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