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AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#61

No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day

I am not surprised, ROCm focuses on CDNA. Was RDNA in ROCm ever officially supported?

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#62

Is modern Radeon support on Linux still great? I've heard that NV Geforce on Linux was kinda bad since ever, but it has massively improved over the past 3-4 years. Is Radeon still the way to go for Linux? EDIT: My usecase is a Linux gaming PC. I was fortunate enough to score an RX 6800 during the pandemic, but moved from Windows 10 to Linux a month ago. Everything seems solid, but I'm looking to upgrade the whole PC…

I have both a modern Radeon and Nvidia card in my PC. Radeon overall offers a smoother desktop experience, and works fine with gaming, including proton-enabled games on Steam. OpenCL via rocm works decent, with some occasional crashes, in Darktable. Support for AI-frameworks like jax is however very lacking, and I spent many days struggling to get it to work well, before giving up and buying a nvidia card. geohot's r…

I use KDE plasma and experience no microstutter with a Nvidia graphics card. Is there an open gnome issue for your issue on gnome?

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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A decade or two with Nvidia.

Nvidia has long been ahead of AMD. They seem to be close to parity right now thanks to Valve’s efforts, but that has historically not been the case. AMD was the one that needed a decade to catch up until Valve started helping. I wonder if the Radeon driver has gotten reliable GPU restart support. The GPU becoming unrecoverable if a shader crashed was long a major issue on Radeon on Linux, and I am not sure if valve f…

On Windows Nvidia has better drivers. On Linux, AMD is far ahead.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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post #54

So about 20% better value than Nvidia comparing MSRPs. Not terrible but that’s what they offered last generation and got 10% market share as a result. If the market price of Nvidia cards remains 20-50% above MSRP while AMD can hit their prices, then maybe we have a ballgame.

MSRP doesn't mean anything right now, it's just a made up number at this point. Let's see the real sticker prices once the cards hit the scalpers cough-cough I mean shelves.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#65
post #47

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The thing is if you don’t need graphic output they are rock solid. I can understand how someone who might use them primarily in headless servers would say the drivers are great.

Graphics output is largely issue free on Nvidia too.

this has never been the case for me, and evidently for the vast majority of others as well.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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post #61

No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day

I am not surprised, ROCm focuses on CDNA. Was RDNA in ROCm ever officially supported?

My 6900 XT has had pretty good support in everything I've tried.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#67
post #14

The problem is that AMD is nowhere close to DLSS performance/quality, AMD cards are good for rasterization but it's not enough. The other thing is that most game don't implement FSR because 90%+ cards are nvidia.

> but it's not enough

How do you mean?

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#68
post #61

No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day

I am not surprised, ROCm focuses on CDNA. Was RDNA in ROCm ever officially supported?

RX 7900 (RDNA 3 flagships) are officially supported. I think the 6900 (RDNA 2) was supported at one point as well, and in both cases other cards with the same architecture could usually be made to work as well.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

#69

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NVIDIA offers one new consumer card with over 16gb.

And that one card is $2500 in practice and sold out (only launched with like 500 inventory across USA). 5090 is pure unobtanium right now unless you feel like paying scalper prices in $3k++

> And that one card is $2500 in practice and sold out (only launched with like 500 inventory across USA).

And the power connector melts if you look at it funny.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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These are gaming cards. If you think AMD is lacking here with just 16GB I can only assume you never bought NVIDIA gaming cards in the last 10 years.

You can buy used nvidia tesla p40 with 24GB from 2016 and unlike AMD, they still have CUDA support. The only thing they are missing is support for the latest data types like fp8.

Which games support fp8?
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