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AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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16GB? In 2025 that seems very small for anything other than gaming.

They don't want to make cards good for AI, at the price gamers will pay, thus annoying the gamers and cutting into their AI chip sales. nVidia created the AI chip market on the backs off gamers, but that doesn't mean that trend will continue forever. The demand is there, so they can extract greater profits and margins on AI chips.

To be fair, you can buy ~3 of these for the price Nvidia charges for 24GB/32GB models.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Is modern Radeon support on Linux still great? I've heard that NV Geforce on Linux was kinda bad since ever, but it has massively improved over the past 3-4 years. Is Radeon still the way to go for Linux? EDIT: My usecase is a Linux gaming PC. I was fortunate enough to score an RX 6800 during the pandemic, but moved from Windows 10 to Linux a month ago. Everything seems solid, but I'm looking to upgrade the whole PC…

I built my current home PC the day 4090 was release, and set up Fedora on it. It was usable at first, with some hiccups in certain updates, where I needed to stay with an older kernel for some time.

Wayland on Nvidia was a mess, though.

But as time goes by, things get better and better.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Is modern Radeon support on Linux still great? I've heard that NV Geforce on Linux was kinda bad since ever, but it has massively improved over the past 3-4 years. Is Radeon still the way to go for Linux? EDIT: My usecase is a Linux gaming PC. I was fortunate enough to score an RX 6800 during the pandemic, but moved from Windows 10 to Linux a month ago. Everything seems solid, but I'm looking to upgrade the whole PC…

Claims about the Nvidia drivers on Linux being bad are largely a myth. Nvidia has long been the gold standard on Linux (for decades). The main reason for complaints is that Nvidia was slow to support xwayland acceleration (mostly due to Linux mainline making it harder for them - see dmabuf being GPL symbol exported), but that has since been fixed.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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Is modern Radeon support on Linux still great? I've heard that NV Geforce on Linux was kinda bad since ever, but it has massively improved over the past 3-4 years. Is Radeon still the way to go for Linux? EDIT: My usecase is a Linux gaming PC. I was fortunate enough to score an RX 6800 during the pandemic, but moved from Windows 10 to Linux a month ago. Everything seems solid, but I'm looking to upgrade the whole PC…

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Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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16GB? In 2025 that seems very small for anything other than gaming.

These cards are $550-$600

16GB is great for what these are: Gaming cards.

Even on the nVidia side you have to spend $2000 (likely more) to get more RAM than that.

You could buy 3 of these for the price of a single nVidia 5090.

Re: AMD RDNA 4 – AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards

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16GB? In 2025 that seems very small for anything other than gaming.

They don't want to make cards good for AI, at the price gamers will pay, thus annoying the gamers and cutting into their AI chip sales. nVidia created the AI chip market on the backs off gamers, but that doesn't mean that trend will continue forever. The demand is there, so they can extract greater profits and margins on AI chips.

High ram cards are just nice for their longer lifespans though.

Since Nvidia dominates the AI market anyway, AMD has the opportunity here to not try and help them protect it, and sell cards with more RAM. IMO that’d be a good move. They’d be keeping gamers happy by not hampering their product artificially. And, some poor grad students might use their cards to build the “next thing.”

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