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Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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I would kill for something that merged Teams and email into a single flow of messages and responses in multiple subjects and threads. I still miss my BlackBerry 10 messaging merging email, SMS, BBM…

This sounds awful I hate teams and try to never use it I did like BBM BB on Android “hub” was horrid

I actually liked it. Even paid for it when by BB10 DevAlpha died.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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You know, Gmail does let you search chat messages too. I thi k it's is:chat. Maybe is:chat OR in:inbox would get you halfway there?

Yes, but it's not in the same stream. And nobody I know or work with uses Google Chat (or whatever the name is now)

Way back IIRC Google Talk message threads would show up right in your inbox.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Is that the proper way in EXO? SPO had individual file replacements. SharePoint stamps were not pave-and-build.

For Exchange it is. Microsoft officially puts out patches for Exchange and technically patching is supported, it's just Exchange Online does not do it so it's poorly tested and when working with Microsoft 8+ years ago, they told us to rinse and replace. I developed a bunch of Powershell scripts to do it before I stopped being Exchange admin.

Ah I thought you were referring to EXO the service, not Exchange Server. Yes, Exchange Server has been a full ISO deployment for many years, now.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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My problem is I support so many applicants which use MAPI calls to create emails to Outlook, and they haven’t and may never add support for MAPI to the web-based version. I kinda thing one reason they are trying to kill the classic Outlook is it’s getting harder to find programmers willing to maintain it.

I found someone's solution that actually does seem to work, even if it's hacky! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1640434/... and https://gist.github.com/SelimBasyouni/efec48a197bfefb59d4ff7... basically create an EML file with X-Unsent: 1 and if you open in New Outlook it will show as a draft. This could basically replace what we're doing with MAPI.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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The classic Outlook is good now. Enterprise did integrate many addins to it for years. I don’t know replacing with the web based one is better or not. I guess not.

Outlook was better in the past, too. The "Advanced Find" functionality was better than any other email client I've ever used and it was gutted in 2013 (or 2016-- I don't recall). Outlook (and Office) 2010 we're the peak of the product to me.

Advanced Find still works for me. Outlook classic for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2501 Build 16.0.18429.20132) 64-bit. Shift-Ctrl-F

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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My problem is I support so many applicants which use MAPI calls to create emails to Outlook, and they haven’t and may never add support for MAPI to the web-based version. I kinda thing one reason they are trying to kill the classic Outlook is it’s getting harder to find programmers willing to maintain it.

I found someone's solution that actually does seem to work, even if it's hacky! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1640434/... and https://gist.github.com/SelimBasyouni/efec48a197bfefb59d4ff7... basically create an EML file with X-Unsent: 1 and if you open in New Outlook it will show as a draft. This could basically replace what we're doing with MAPI.

I finished testing that solution earlier and it is what we'll initially implement, until a better solution is available. Note for anyone testing, the C# project created a file with CR/LF line endings, and it does not open as a draft in classic Outlook ("Old Outlook"). Changing the file to end with LF only solved the issue and works with classic and New Outlook.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Outlook was better in the past, too. The "Advanced Find" functionality was better than any other email client I've ever used and it was gutted in 2013 (or 2016-- I don't recall). Outlook (and Office) 2010 we're the peak of the product to me.

Advanced Find still works for me. Outlook classic for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2501 Build 16.0.18429.20132) 64-bit. Shift-Ctrl-F

The feature is still there but it doesn't return all results like it did in older version of Office. 2016 had a nasty bug that made the Advanced Find window "disappear" (resized itself to a tiny sliver and unless you know the ALT-SPACE shortcut to get to Resize the window is just lost). I don't know if that but persisted into newer versions. Microsoft acknowledged the bug but said they were de-emphasizing Advanced Find in favor of the awful search in the main Outlook window.

In Outlook 2010 I could do a search for all messages from a given sender with specific words in the subject and an attachment of at least 100KB and get results.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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When was Microsoft known for being anything but a provider of bloated software?

They were known for relative stability and best in backwards-compatibility, until around the Win8 era.

The world runs on legacy software, this is super important. At some point it seems like all industries start with providing useful things people want through creation and competition, and then flip to monopolistic exploitation.

How can we keep the first part of this cycle and some how stop it from getting to the second?

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