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Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Can’t wait for my 75 year old father to call me for tech support when the app auto-migrates, changes layouts, corrupts the mail profile or requires sign in for licence validation. Thunderbird is just as bad, there is a new UI change every few months (and they all make it worse).

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Can’t wait for my 75 year old father to call me for tech support when the app auto-migrates, changes layouts, corrupts the mail profile or requires sign in for licence validation. Thunderbird is just as bad, there is a new UI change every few months (and they all make it worse).

Agreed. Very disappointed that Thunderbird went the direction they did.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Can’t wait for my 75 year old father to call me for tech support when the app auto-migrates, changes layouts, corrupts the mail profile or requires sign in for licence validation. Thunderbird is just as bad, there is a new UI change every few months (and they all make it worse).

So maybe thunderbird isn't ideal for you because it keeps changing... but I do know for a fact you can disable auto updating in Thunderbird. I would much rather set up a 75 year old with something that will stay the same AND allow installing older versions, than something I don't fully trust will obey the "Disable auto-updates" checkbox.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Outlook is an odd duck. It is an application with so many flaws or weirdness and I dont like it.

Though, being honest, I do hate it a bit less than all the other alternatives in that space.

If I am in a "Microsoft powered enterprise" Outlook empowers me to be ridiculously productive. compared to GSuite/Workspace.

If you are outside a Microsoft sphere it is harder to justify it.

I use Gmail a lot. THe web interface is blah. very blah.

But it gets the job done, and I hate it a little less than the alternatives.

I did get Mutt up and running last week, Oh what joy it was to get it to integrate with Gmail.

I will say that if your macOS based MailMate is the best mail client for me.

Sadly I am often on the Windows end of things.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Outlook is an odd duck. It is an application with so many flaws or weirdness and I dont like it. Though, being honest, I do hate it a bit less than all the other alternatives in that space. If I am in a "Microsoft powered enterprise" Outlook empowers me to be ridiculously productive. compared to GSuite/Workspace. If you are outside a Microsoft sphere it is harder to justify it. I use Gmail a lot. THe web interface is…

Thunderbird does what it says on the box. It just works. It can also now talk to Exchange servers.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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I finally ditched Outlook last month - and settled on eM Client and it's really nice. It does a lot of stuff.

Outlook for years had these recurring issues:

- mail profile gets corrupted - requiring me to re-setup my mail accounts

- from time to time, emails would sit in the Outbox not going anywhere. Then I'd notice hours or a day later. Frustrating. Have to restart Windows to fix it.

Maybe the New Outlook is better, but when I first tried it, it was missing lots of stuff.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Can’t wait for my 75 year old father to call me for tech support when the app auto-migrates, changes layouts, corrupts the mail profile or requires sign in for licence validation. Thunderbird is just as bad, there is a new UI change every few months (and they all make it worse).

Actually my Thunderbird looks the same for many years now. I set it to a specific layout and it keeps that way. Either distro package maintainers keep this layout change from disrupting me, or I have configured it in a way that even when updates come, I still have my usual oldschool layout with high information density.

I too was disappointed to see Thunderbird copy the atrocious Outlook layout. I am sorry, I get 50 e-mails a day, not 3. Outlook is a child's toy and I hope Thunderbird does not turn into one as well.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Outlook is an odd duck. It is an application with so many flaws or weirdness and I dont like it. Though, being honest, I do hate it a bit less than all the other alternatives in that space. If I am in a "Microsoft powered enterprise" Outlook empowers me to be ridiculously productive. compared to GSuite/Workspace. If you are outside a Microsoft sphere it is harder to justify it. I use Gmail a lot. THe web interface is…

Does MailMate work well with Office 365 accounts? And how does it compare to the stock Mail app? The screenshots I could find look pretty similar.

I use Outlook for Mac at home and for Window at work. It's ironic that the Mac version is so much nicer than the Windows version. The Windows version feels like a wrapper around outlook.live.com.

Re: Outlook classic dropped from Microsoft 365

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Outlook is an odd duck. It is an application with so many flaws or weirdness and I dont like it. Though, being honest, I do hate it a bit less than all the other alternatives in that space. If I am in a "Microsoft powered enterprise" Outlook empowers me to be ridiculously productive. compared to GSuite/Workspace. If you are outside a Microsoft sphere it is harder to justify it. I use Gmail a lot. THe web interface is…

I've been rocking Evolution for around 10 years now. We migrated from GroupWise at my little firm to Exchange a few years before that.

I mostly look after the mail systems myself because no one else really seems to give a shit! Provided it carries on working. We have been all in on prem for a good 25 years now and I run a separate Exim n Dovecot with rspamd setup for a few vanity domains.

Evo just works. It does have a fair few quirks of its own but nothing as nasty as Outlook. I doubt it will be too popular here - it only runs on Linux.

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