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We were told the machines would free us from repetitive or injurious work, letting us pursue more meaningful and prosperous lives. Or at least they would be our partners we could leverage. Instead, will they be the tools of our enslavement to The Man?

When was the last time in history that people didn't use the most advanced technology to subdue/imprison/etc. other people? I am not saying that good things didn't happen, but where there is money to be made, money WILL be made. And for some countries that don't enjoy regulations like GDPR (China, India, with growing economies 'solutions' like this will definitely come to play). Some people will replace a form of sla…

Quite literally never. Society and civilization, from the earliest days, has been a story of subjugation of a lower class by a higher class. Technology and force have enabled this.

How else could you compel a farmworking class to provide for other segments of the society?

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We were told the machines would free us from repetitive or injurious work, letting us pursue more meaningful and prosperous lives. Or at least they would be our partners we could leverage. Instead, will they be the tools of our enslavement to The Man?

When was the last time in history that people didn't use the most advanced technology to subdue/imprison/etc. other people? I am not saying that good things didn't happen, but where there is money to be made, money WILL be made. And for some countries that don't enjoy regulations like GDPR (China, India, with growing economies 'solutions' like this will definitely come to play). Some people will replace a form of sla…

I'm sure China and India will like GDPR if they can use paper money to purchase industrial products and natural resources from the EU and North America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they at least went through a slightly-diverse undergrad university (Duke) and hopefully didn't spend it insulated from different kinds of people. Out of the thousands of students there, all of their friends happened to also be sweatshop heirs? I guess I just don't understand how someone, who's not royalty, can become a grown ass adult, never having had made friends with or developed at least some kind of empathy…

>and hopefully didn't spend it insulated from different kinds of people. Who knows? Maybe they could insulate themselves. Maybe they got a bunch of views but the ones that fit their current purview prevailed. >never having had made friends with or developed at least some kind of empathy towards people unlike themselves. people throw around the term too loosely nowadays, but psychopathy/sociopathy can be a legitmate e…

I think it's rather a form of "natural selection", you have to be a sociopath to be successful in a pond full of other ruthless sharks.

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I'm shocked that anyone here is confused as to why this is controversial, to use a popular twitter phrase they were completely "mask off" on what they intended their tech to be used for. The demo was for a garment manufacturing sweatshop in which they identified a slow employee, called him by a number, and humiliated him, stopping just short of recommending a "corrective action". This easily could have been spun in a…

Or, the guy could be congratulating an employee performing well and discovering a new best practice for the job.

Same tech, better value communication to all stakeholders

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I'm shocked that anyone here is confused as to why this is controversial, to use a popular twitter phrase they were completely "mask off" on what they intended their tech to be used for. The demo was for a garment manufacturing sweatshop in which they identified a slow employee, called him by a number, and humiliated him, stopping just short of recommending a "corrective action". This easily could have been spun in a…

One of the things you can infer from this is that these people don't think the workers need to be supported by management. This is one of the most common forms of inefficiency I find, though. Management resents workers so much that they don't enable them to do work properly, due to a bias which leads them to believe their workers should be able to do more with less. A failure to invest in a functional work environmen…

> what they're designing the software for

They are designing it to sell. Their potential buyers are sociopaths just like them. These buyers, in turn, will also not benefit from the software, but I do imagine it would sell nicely. SNAFU.

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post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time in history that people didn't use the most advanced technology to subdue/imprison/etc. other people? I am not saying that good things didn't happen, but where there is money to be made, money WILL be made. And for some countries that don't enjoy regulations like GDPR (China, India, with growing economies 'solutions' like this will definitely come to play). Some people will replace a form of sla…

I'm sure China and India will like GDPR if they can use paper money to purchase industrial products and natural resources from the EU and North America

China and GDPR is not a thing. China is building a social credit scoring system which is the very thing that GDPR wants to stop from ever being built (see Facebook, Stasi, Securitat in Romania, etc).

India.. don't get me started. There is no law in that land. Hasn't been one. Will not be one for the next thousand years. Let's not be graphic, let's just say that "caste system", "women's right" and leave it at that. GDPR requires rule of just (as from Justice) law. Caste system and rule of law are conflicting terms.

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