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Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned
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Re: Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned
#22Did they seriously try to call an RF transceiver a jammer? Also you can literally "jam" anything with anything, I used to have a pair of walkie-talkies from the 70s that were designed to use (what's now used as) the CB band... is that considered a jammer now?
They call them "Keyless repeaters and signal amplifiers", but say people also refer to them as "jammers".
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#23So this is a change from the status quo where actually transmitting an interfering signal is illegal to one where having a device that might theoretically transmit an interfering signal is illegal? It sounds like ordering all pencils be made illegal because they can be used to write threats. I can see why they might want to make this change but I can't see how it can feasibly be defined and enforced without making ev…
Radio equipment restrictions are as old as radio itself. Go into cellular telecommunication or, god forbid, radar, and you will find a great number of things you are not allowed to possess or sell, with very severe punishments for violation.
Like what?
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#24It'd be lovely if there were also penalties for the firms which sell those vulnerable cars, so easily stolen if you have one of the now-banned little gadgets. Oh well. I'm sure the problem will clear up, once all the crooks have dutifully handed their little gadgets over to the coppers.
I saw an ad recently for a car (Kia?) with a phone app that could sent an unlock/start code to someone else's phone. It was so you could lend your car to a friend without all the hassle of physical keys. What could possibly go wrong?
Assuming your friend has Internet access nothing could really go wrong. If you forget to send them the code they can just watch a short video.
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#25Ah, those law abiding thieves will surely stop procuring themselves those devices now that they are illegal.
It will reduce supply, but it will also make it easier to prosecute those that have these devices.
I frankly don't understand the sentiment. Should we not outlaw murder because "ha, surely criminals won't murder anymore now"?
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#26Oh, thank goodness, they're finally banning these evil devices. Hopefully they'll move on to bobby pins, coat hangers, screwdrivers, and hammers next.
I feel it a bit ironic arguing about "devastating effect on victims, who need their vehicles to go about their everyday lives" while the lock of homes including brand new ones are from the last century, somehow not the same worry about the place where people live. And in a car based society - more like forced outside of London which has usable public transportation - made itself so vulnarable to the use of cars for basic necessities like going to work and shopping, yet the practices and public infrastructure (parking in traffic lane, blocking traffic for safety, damaging neglected potholes) are making it worse like car theft. Seems like very selective worries from a theatrical public figure.
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I guess the point is that just having one of these will now be a complete crime and you don't need to catch someone in the a act to prosecute.
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#28"Making or selling a signal jammer could lead to up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine." I can understand you like to make some devices illegal. But really, five years prison, unlimited fine. Is everybody insane now.
We‘re talking about the UK here. They’ve jumped the shark long ago and are now at the „legislate blunted butter knives“ stage.
Re: Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned
#29It'd be lovely if there were also penalties for the firms which sell those vulnerable cars, so easily stolen if you have one of the now-banned little gadgets. Oh well. I'm sure the problem will clear up, once all the crooks have dutifully handed their little gadgets over to the coppers.
I saw an ad recently for a car (Kia?) with a phone app that could sent an unlock/start code to someone else's phone. It was so you could lend your car to a friend without all the hassle of physical keys. What could possibly go wrong?
This is using NFC, which is impossible to intercept. So only the person you send the key to can unlock and start your car with their phone, and you need to hack their phone to steal the key, which I believe is impossible given the way that Apple implements it (you need to steal their phone and know their passcode to use the key unless they set it in express, and even then the phone has to be unlocked within a certain time period to actually start the car).
Re: Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned
#30Oh, thank goodness, they're finally banning these evil devices. Hopefully they'll move on to bobby pins, coat hangers, screwdrivers, and hammers next.
I feel it a bit ironic arguing about "devastating effect on victims, who need their vehicles to go about their everyday lives" while the lock of homes including brand new ones are from the last century, somehow not the same worry about the place where people live. And in a car based society - more like forced outside of London which has usable public transportation - made itself so vulnarable to the use of cars for b…
Or they are just exaggerating the consequences so they can pass a silly law that let's them say they did something next time they run for office.