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Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

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Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#131

I think your timeline is at best optimistic. I would personally like to see fixed land based fusion power work before we start trying to build them into moving vessels. Your claim that the shipping industry is "desperate to decarbonize" also needs a citation. From what I've seen shippers top three concerns are "how to minimize costs", "how to reduce costs", and "how to save money". Can you make this system cheaper to…

> before we start trying to build them into moving vessels

Why wait, though? I agree that the timeline - the whole project! - seems extraordinarily optimistic, but I don't see why development of potential maritime applications should create any obstacle to the simultaneous development of grid power applications.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#132
post #113

The NS Savannah (fission powered) was unable to enter some ports because the local governments did not allow nuclear powered vessels in their waters. Do you think that a fusion powered vessel will be allowed in?

Yes

Could you explain why its a yes?

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#134
I'd really like to hear what you guys are going to work on, beside PR. There are no nuclear fusion reactors, nor do we even know what one would look like if it did exist. How can you already plan to adapt fusion reactors to ships then?

This feels oddly "premature", for lack of a stronger word.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#136
At first I thought this was insane.

But I also think HTS superconductors have changed the game for fusion.

Picking an early adopter that could support higher prices than the grid makes sense.

This is super ambitious and difficult, but I wish you all the best in overcoming these challenges. Someone will, sometime.

Is now the time? Could be.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#137

At first I thought this was insane. But I also think HTS superconductors have changed the game for fusion. Picking an early adopter that could support higher prices than the grid makes sense. This is super ambitious and difficult, but I wish you all the best in overcoming these challenges. Someone will, sometime. Is now the time? Could be.

High temperature superconductors changed the game for fusion in 1986.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#138

> One common question is, why not fission? Fission works technically, but not practically. Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) could power ships, but licensing fission reactors on land is already brutally hard and expensive—doing it for vessels moving between international ports with enriched uranium is nearly impossible What makes you think that licensing a fusion reactor will be easier? Safely handling tritium is fantast…

unless you're the US Navy...

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#139
Greybeard former fusion founder here. Wishing you guys all the luck in the world! Email in profile in case you wish to chat.

For all the naysayers, as a fusion startup, targeting the marine market is a good move. They aren't even the first fusion startup to do so; IIRC Rostoker's group got their first major funding from the NRL. The marine market pays a premium for not having to refuel, and historically emerging energy technologies have early commercialization in ships. This was true for fission in the 50s and for photovoltaic solar in the 70s/80s.

Now, sure, they have to make power to be able to sell it. But to build a reactor, you have to raise funds, and in order to raise funds you have to show that you can make money if you are successful at making power. Explicitly aiming at a market that might actually pay for overpriced power shows their investors that there may be a valid business case. That doesn't make fusion happen any easier, but you don't make any reactions without first building a reactor.

You know, I'm sure these guys could work somewhere getting paid to get more people to click on stuff. Instead they are taking a risk to do something that might be important. Make no mistake: fusion founder is a tough gig. There is no established off-ramp, and many fusion founders find that it's a job that can easily eat your career. I hope their plan B is in order, as well as their prenups and/or wills. They are going off to fight a dragon that's eaten a lot of other people's careers, relationships and sanity.

As an aside, it's nice to see someone working on a tokamak actually not being overly optimistic about wall heat flux. It's like somebody actually paid attention to Stacey or something ;)

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