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What happened to the n in restaurateur?

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Re: What happened to the n in restaurateur?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's also the debate in gendered languages over whether one should never use feminine endings on professions, and keep them generic, or always use them for all professions for consistency [...] This is a somewhat different kind of thing. In English, there are plenty of professions with a gendered suffix rather like this. Waiter / waitress; actor / actress; steward / stewardess. In general, the -ess cannot be use…

> the feminist prescription for a female doctor is "lady doctor", not "doctress" Being male I hesitate to speak for feminists, but I’m fairly sure at least 2nd wave ones would prefer just “doctor” and would frown on “lady” as an unnecessary qualifier.

Agreeing… You can hear women call themselves “actor” rather than “actress” if you deign to partake of news articles about people who act.

Re: What happened to the n in restaurateur?

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This is just begging the question! So "restaurateur" was first, but did "restaurant" get an "n"? Why isn't it "restaurat"? The reason is that in French (ultimately from Latin) "-ateur" means "person who" and "-ant" means roughly "ing". So a "restaurater" is someone who restores and "restaurant" means "restoring" (i.e. a restoring soup, subsequently place).

It makes perfect sense? Let's be a little cheeky and invent analogues. Try for example "color". person that does coloring - colorer thing that does coloring - colorant

With “adult” (meaning violate, dilute, or extramaritally fornicate)

Person that does adultering: adulterer Thing that does adultering: adulterant

Re: What happened to the n in restaurateur?

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know your french level but perhaps you read your quote too fast because it says: "Mets qui vient après les hors-d'œuvre et AVANT le plat principal". So the "entrée" is the dish that comes BEFORE the main dish.

Perhaps you read GP's quote too fast? Because it ends with: >>>> Par extension. Plat principal. Un repas composé d’un hors-d’œuvre, une entrée et un dessert. "By extension. Main dish. A meal consisting of an appetizer, an entrée and a dessert." There the "entrée" is clearly the "main dish".

Mea culpa, I did go over it. I guess as a native speaker the idea of calling a "Plat Principal" an "Entrée" is just so foreign to me I just cannot accept it... :-) Perhaps it is a regional difference

Re: What happened to the n in restaurateur?

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post #14

> This puzzler, like many other difficult-to-spell food terms (such as hors d’oeuvre), also has its derivation in the French language. That's the whole story: people who don't know French (or any foreign language, likely) cannot spell a French word.

Bouleuques.

*Boullocques, you paysan.
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