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Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

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Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

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Very cool. If you could also make a smaller one with ~3kw output that fits on a locomotive frame you'd literally have the entire freight rail industry the world over as customers.

Would you though? A lot of freight lines in europe are already electric, wouldn't it be much more efficient to have a stationary high-power reactor than carrying around a smaller one on each locomotive?

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#14
post #6

Very cool. If you could also make a smaller one with ~3kw output that fits on a locomotive frame you'd literally have the entire freight rail industry the world over as customers.

Would you though? A lot of freight lines in europe are already electric, wouldn't it be much more efficient to have a stationary high-power reactor than carrying around a smaller one on each locomotive?

That might be balanced somewhat by not needing to maintain thousands of miles of caternary wire.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#15
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can get pretty far along! From magnetic system design, vacuum vessel, RF heating system, cryogenic system, tritium fueling, etc we can start making a ton of progress today. The main things we still need to learn that can influence the design is advanced divertor scenarios and what are best material choices for plasma facing components (PFC's).

How certain is it that a tokamak is even able to be run in a stable manner? What if it turns out that a stellarator would be better? Or is that already validated by now?

The stellarator design makes more sense to me as well and speaking of it, those guys will build a stellarator on land:

https://www.proximafusion.com/press-news/proxima-fusion-and-...

Problems are still many, though (Paper:)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092037962...

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#16

Really excited about this! Congrats on the launch. Ships make sense as a first target, but I'm curious -- do you see a future in which we have household fission reactors? E.G. power an entire house (city block, etc...) with fission reactors?

Thank you! Household fission reactors: my take is that from a technical perspective we could definitely do it. It's more from a proliferation and nuclear waste perspective, will it be allowed and accepted by the public? Not sure, maybe though.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you though? A lot of freight lines in europe are already electric, wouldn't it be much more efficient to have a stationary high-power reactor than carrying around a smaller one on each locomotive?

That might be balanced somewhat by not needing to maintain thousands of miles of caternary wire.

I think maintaining thousands of miles of wire and one large powerplant would be cheaper than maintaining thousands of small mobile reactors, but that's just speculation of course. And most of the wire has to already be there anyways for passenger transport, I think, because many rail lines are used by cargo and people. Unless every train should have a reactor?

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you though? A lot of freight lines in europe are already electric, wouldn't it be much more efficient to have a stationary high-power reactor than carrying around a smaller one on each locomotive?

That might be balanced somewhat by not needing to maintain thousands of miles of caternary wire.

Once we have cheap miniaturized fusion reactors, that work stable - we won't need so much electric wiring anymore, true.

Unfortunately, so far exactly 0 working fusion reactors have been build, so currently, I would not demolish electric lines just yet.

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#19
post #16

Really excited about this! Congrats on the launch. Ships make sense as a first target, but I'm curious -- do you see a future in which we have household fission reactors? E.G. power an entire house (city block, etc...) with fission reactors?

Thank you! Household fission reactors: my take is that from a technical perspective we could definitely do it. It's more from a proliferation and nuclear waste perspective, will it be allowed and accepted by the public? Not sure, maybe though.

If that's a concern, how do you solve that for shipping? What if some somali pirate steals your fusion ship? Would they have to have armed protection (on top of the guards they already have, that's probably not enough when nuclear proliferation is the issue)?

Re: Launch HN: Maritime Fusion (YC W25) – Fusion Reactors for Ships

#20
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How certain is it that a tokamak is even able to be run in a stable manner? What if it turns out that a stellarator would be better? Or is that already validated by now?

The stellarator design makes more sense to me as well and speaking of it, those guys will build a stellarator on land: https://www.proximafusion.com/press-news/proxima-fusion-and-... Problems are still many, though (Paper:) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092037962...

Saw that this morning as well, it's awesome. I do think long term especially for grid applications stellarators could be great... note that their design is ~2.7GW I believe. We're talking gigantic traditional power plant size, which the world needs, but the first generation of these facilities will cost multi billions of dollars. Also with the stellarator, doing non planar HTS coils and the associated manufacturing challenge is a very very hard problem.
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