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I hear you: would love to see a RISC-V-based system without all the downsides to using ARM. Perhaps in another 3-5 years we'll see performance parity and it'll be viable. If we get close it certainly seems like we'll see a laptop from Framework using such a chip.
You mean this? https://frame.work/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard
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It is indeed better than the Mac. It's still 1000 times worse than a regular desktop PC which lets people swap RAM modules, the CPU, add a dGPU and so on.
Which regular pc desktop under 2000 gets you 128gb of vram?
There will be more options by the time this becomes available.
Framework is great because they took an entshittified category and made a good and repairable product in it, upgradeable in a way the other vendors refused to enable. That was the laptop. Now they made a less repairable desktop PC. This brings nothing to the market. The soldered ram is particularly unacceptable. I get and believe that they could not make it work otherwise, but then they should have stopped the produc…
I’m happy to answer questions folks have on the Framework Desktop (though probably not until later today).
Would you consider adding keyboard options that include these keys?
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I agree. I was an early adopter and have a Framework 13 11th gen intel (batch 4) and have been generally happy with it. Except the keyboard stopped working and I had to replace it, ~100 tiny screws later (and one stripped screw). And the battery drains fast (~24 hours) when suspended. And except that it won't turn on anymore without plugging into a particular USB-C port with a "dumb" USB cable (the basic 5V 900mA typ…
In case it helps someone: my Framework had rapid battery drain in suspend. Around 10% per hour. Turns out the Samsung EVO NVMe I installed had really high power draw (I guess it's meant for performance desktops?). I replaced it with a WD Blue and now I lose negligible power while suspended.
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Note that I game at 1080p (or worse), even on my setup with dual 4k monitors (because it is also over 10 years old), so neither shows up on steam survey as anything other than 1080p (which also puts dual setups at a different category). Gaming at 1080p or even higher still requires thousands on GPUs which I'm not willing to do. However simply having more than 1080p for desktop usage is accessible and has been so for…
> so neither shows up on steam survey as anything other than 1080p The hardware survey doesn't occur while games are running. It's recording the display setting of your desktop, which would put you and everyone like you in the 4K bucket. > If you want to play the useless popularity game, go and check what are the resolutions on the phones and tablets with even smaller screens sold in the last 10 years I have a rather…
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So they're exactly like the gaming PC community. "Decibels aren't a benchmark", as an enthusiast acquaintance says. If you want to go fanless, you need to go to a silent PC community. Where their forums is actively hostile--even brutal--to people who do want a fan. There are a lot of more or less weird, very dedicated, very opinionated subcultures in the PC hardware world.
> So they're exactly like the gaming PC community. "Decibels aren't a benchmark", as an enthusiast acquaintance says. wut? Gamers love to pay extra for a tiny bit of less noise. Noctua and expensive water cooled systems are widespread in the gaming community.
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Why not? This is a fully capable x86 desktop.
Qubes OS doesn't run on any "fully capable x86 desktop". It's based on Xen and hardware virtualization. There are very few desktop computers recommended to run Qubes [0]. Does Framework support suspend on Qubes? If it works, it could become popular in the Qubes Community. [0] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/community-recommended-computers...
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Qubes OS doesn't run on any "fully capable x86 desktop". It's based on Xen and hardware virtualization. There are very few desktop computers recommended to run Qubes [0]. Does Framework support suspend on Qubes? If it works, it could become popular in the Qubes Community. [0] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/community-recommended-computers...
I know a core developer (Marek) recently got a Framework 16 and submitted some fixes after early testing iirc - might be worthwhile chasing it with him
I was asking about the desktop.
I’m happy to answer questions folks have on the Framework Desktop (though probably not until later today).
Every time I consider one of your laptops, I see that there are no options for dedicated page up, page down, home, and end keys and those are deal breakers for me. I always end up with a Lenovo instead. Would you consider adding keyboard options that include these keys?