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What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by LoganDark »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #59

I used shrooms for a while to recover from depression, but I never once saw anything. While walking along a trail I felt my vision had grown sharper, but never colors, never patterns or movement. That baffles me because at the time, I thought maybe I had consumed the wrong shrooms. The self-reflection, realization, and separation of thought from emotion was the most profound moment in my life. Yet no hallucination.

for me psychedelics tend to cause things to "pop out" at me more but they don't cause new things to appear on top of reality

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Post by aradox66 »

machine_ghost wrote: post #39

"We also looked at different types of psychedelics and didn’t see any systematic differences there." This was the most fascinating finding to me. I really wouldn't have expected Salvia, Acid, Shrooms, etc. to all produce the same hallucinations ... but I guess ultimately they're all operating on the same core neurochemicals, so I guess it makes sense.

That seems much more like a limitation of their analysis to me

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Post by jampekka »

ge96 wrote: post #58
jampekka wrote: post #53

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A sober, or an experienced trustworthy, tripsitter is almost a must. A small amount of MDMA (especially if you're not familiar with it) before taking a psychedelic can be helpful as mentioned. Having some sedatives just handy just in case may itself lessen the probability of unpleasant effects. Micro-dosing is mostly placebo. But a good idea is to start with small doses (check e.g. the "threshold limits" at Psychonau…

Yeah I'm wondering if you can tell like I can't smoke w because I get paranoid/scared of people. I just drink in a social setting edit: tell as in if you can't handle w, shouldn't do acid/psychedelics ha

Psychedelics aren't necessarily as anxiety/paranoia inducing as weed, and even the effects in general aren't necessarily as intense. Of course it depends on the dosage, the person and the setting, and paranoia from weed most likely correlates with difficult psychedelic experiences.

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Post by dymk »

guardian5x wrote: post #14
westmeal wrote: post #6

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Sometimes it just hits in such a way that you have no idea wtf is happening. One time I couldn't read because letters just didn't have meaning any more. It looked like alien unicode characters or some shit.

Isn't that kinda scary? I mean when some parts of your brains don't work or not work properly?

It being scary is kind of the point. Or rather, if you’re going to do LSD, you need to be in the mindset that 1) this is temporary, and you’ll feel fine tomorrow, and 2) the experience you’re about to have will be extraordinarily novel and impossible to fully describe, even after having experienced it. It’s an intense hallucinogenic, and is the most potent mind altering substance that we know of. It’s also one of the safer ones, if you’ve done your research and aren’t predisposed to a certain category of mental illnesses (schizophrenia, bipolar, anxiety).

Knowing that it’s temporary is the best tether to this world that keeps me from having a bad trip, if it feels like that could happen. As others have said, an LSD trip is going to take you places you might not expect to end up. Meditation can be good preparation leading up to a trip.

LSD is one of those chemicals that gives you a glimpse at what it’s like to process the world with a completely different category of consciousness.

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Post by dymk »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #56
LoganDark wrote: post #43

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> Fortunately, the fire brigade showed up quickly to quench the very real flames, without us having to ring them. imagine calling them like "my friend and i are both on lsd and we are both seeing that house on fire so could you check it out please in case it's real" a trick i use sometimes is to check my phone camera to see if it also sees the same thing

There's something about digital pictures that escapes the visuals.

I dunno about that, everything turns into a wildly animated gif when I’m tripping

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Post by dymk »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #59

I used shrooms for a while to recover from depression, but I never once saw anything. While walking along a trail I felt my vision had grown sharper, but never colors, never patterns or movement. That baffles me because at the time, I thought maybe I had consumed the wrong shrooms. The self-reflection, realization, and separation of thought from emotion was the most profound moment in my life. Yet no hallucination.

Shrooms and visuals seem to be all over the place. From personal experience, they usually induce visuals but not always. For some friends, they rarely induce visuals, but sometimes they do - especially with specific strains of cubensis (despite “a cube is a cube”).

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Post by LoganDark »

dymk wrote: post #75
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's something about digital pictures that escapes the visuals.

I dunno about that, everything turns into a wildly animated gif when I’m tripping

i had a friend who told me that on high enough doses every picture becomes like a movie, you can just stare into it and imagine that whole world

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Post by westmeal »

guardian5x wrote: post #14
westmeal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes it just hits in such a way that you have no idea wtf is happening. One time I couldn't read because letters just didn't have meaning any more. It looked like alien unicode characters or some shit.

Isn't that kinda scary? I mean when some parts of your brains don't work or not work properly?

Nope, but as others have said - you must commit and realize that once you dose you're in for whatever it is. You must assure yourself that this is temporary and will pass. As a matter in fact our lives are much the same, nothing ever lasts forever. Just gotta roll with it.

Anyway, it's not that the brain isn't working properly it's just that the brain is working differently. That's how I see it.

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Post by A7C3D5 »

machine_ghost wrote: post #39

"We also looked at different types of psychedelics and didn’t see any systematic differences there." This was the most fascinating finding to me. I really wouldn't have expected Salvia, Acid, Shrooms, etc. to all produce the same hallucinations ... but I guess ultimately they're all operating on the same core neurochemicals, so I guess it makes sense.

They don't, they are drastically different in character. There are close similarities within classes between some of the lysergamides, substituted phenethylamines or tryptamines. But even closely structurally related analogues can be extremely different (ex. 2C-E vs DOET vs 2C-C).

LSD is almost nothing like psilocybin or mescaline or DMT. And nothing is like salvinorin...

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