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Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by christophilus »

ortusdux wrote: post #12

It looks like their event drove a lot of traffic towards frame.work - Cloudfare is giving me a 1hr 9min wait to access the site. https://i.imgur.com/twcxJjr.png

Same. This is the first time I’ve ever seen the Cloudflare queue screen.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by sunshowers »

jackbravo wrote: post #21
lytedev wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be squaring up directly against the mac studio with its efficient APU and big memory bandwidth use cases with a cheaper price tag. At least that's the loose sense that I got based on their keynote.

Nvidia project Digits seems to fall in a similar category, no?

It is, and the keynote briefly mentioned it.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by dragonwriter »

sunshowers wrote: post #20
onli wrote: post #14

Framework is great because they took an entshittified category and made a good and repairable product in it, upgradeable in a way the other vendors refused to enable. That was the laptop. Now they made a less repairable desktop PC. This brings nothing to the market. The soldered ram is particularly unacceptable. I get and believe that they could not make it work otherwise, but then they should have stopped the produc…

There's no other way to get 256 GB/s of memory bandwidth for this cheap, and that's quite valuable in many workloads. I'm curious to get one for compiling code too. You can get similar bandwidth with server boards that cost 5-10x as much, or with a Mac Studio that costs 2.5x as much.

Or the NVidia Project DIGITS device at 1.5x the cost, but, also Q2 2025 instead of Q3.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by buckle8017 »

ortusdux wrote: post #12

It looks like their event drove a lot of traffic towards frame.work - Cloudfare is giving me a 1hr 9min wait to access the site. https://i.imgur.com/twcxJjr.png

Isn't the entire purpose of a CDN like cloudflare to enable bursts like that?

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

coldpie wrote: post #22

Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...

Reserved one of the updated base model 13’s. Battery life for this gen of Ryzen seems solid in other laptops so I’m hoping it’ll do reasonably well at stretching the FW13’s 61Wh battery for low intensity tasks, particularly in power save mode under Linux.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Post by theossuary »

jackbravo wrote: post #21
lytedev wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be squaring up directly against the mac studio with its efficient APU and big memory bandwidth use cases with a cheaper price tag. At least that's the loose sense that I got based on their keynote.

Nvidia project Digits seems to fall in a similar category, no?

It's a bit different. Digits is based on the Tegra CPU, which is an ARM chip with integrated nvidia GPU. It's nearly COTS (commercial off the shelf), but not quite. Tegra CPU support isn't in mainline linux, so you have to run their fork of Ubuntu or build your own kernel. The integrated GPU is a special class in nvidia drivers, and some things just don't work on it (they only work on a discrete GPU) for seemingly no reason too.
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