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Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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What "many people" don't like about this system is just how effective it is at regulating their businesses. The alternative - that the 535 members of Congress should regulate every detail of every facet of federal life - is completely untenable. The reality is that Congress has been effectively neutralized as a law making institution for at least two decades, barely able to do more than pass the budget and one or two…

Said differently, most people don't care about principles. The government is designed based on certain principles that define how it is meant to work, and there's a reasonable case to be made that the executive branch should not have the authority to functionally create laws or run their own courts. That just doesn't matter to most people, as you said they're happy if those regulations work for them. The same situati…

I do agree that people rarely truly care about the principles they claim they adhere to, when it turns against their own interests.

But that is not what is happening here. A principle is not self-motivatingly good just because it exists. The principle that Congress must directly make every law and set every detail of that law is simply a bad principle, at least for a country of the size and complexity of the USA, and given the last 200 years of experience in good and bad governance.

Congress has long understood this, and so they have invested some of their legislative power into various executive agencies, while still maintaining a great degree of control over the broad strokes of what those agencies do.

It's not useful to anyone for Congress to, say, debate and set the exact safe level of every chemical known to man in water that should be enforced: the EPA exists to study this and take the right measures based on the most reasonable scientific knowledge of the day. If the CDC discovers that exposure to teflon above 1 part in 100,000 is likely to cause significant harm, it shouldn't be regulated only once Congress meets in the next session.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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The Impoundment Control Act isn't as simple as "every dollar appropriated must be spent." It defines how a President must notify congress to request a reduction in appropriated budget. That request is expected to contain a full accounting if expected financial impacts and reasons for the changes requested. Congress then has 45 days to respond, without congressional approval the request is considered denied. What they…

The impoundment control act makes it clear that, by default, the President must spend all the money as appropriated by Congress. The president can ask Congress for a dispensation from this base requirement, and Congress can deny it, going back to the president being forced to spend the money. Note that this law was created specifically because Nixon had gotten into the habit of not spending money as apportioned by Co…

> Note that this law was created specifically because Nixon had gotten into the habit of not spending money as apportioned by Congress if he didn't like the specific programs. So, Congress made laws to specifically not allow Presidents to do this on a whim.

This is a little bit misleading, By the time the Impoundment Control Act was passed, the Nixon Administration had been hit by a flurry of lawsuits on impoundment, lost most of them at the trial level, and given up immediately and released the funds at issue in those cases. (There was one case they continued fighting up to the Supreme Court and lost 9-0 after the ICA passed, but not based on the ICA, just pre-existing law; there was also Supreme Court precedent going back to the 19th Century with the same conclusion -- the President has no authority to impound funds Congress has directed must be spent.)

The ICA was basically an olive branch -- it provides a method in law for the President to temporarily hold appropriated funds and request recission, specifying that the funds had to be released if, in 45 session days, Congress didn't affirmatively act on the recission request; this was an effort to provide a mechanism to address the problems that the unambiguously illegal attempts at impoundment were notionally motivated by. It wasn't to prohibit impoundment -- the existing laws directing expending funds already did that inherently.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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Optimistic.

I mean, to the degree in which I expect there to be an election in 2 years, and 4 years, I suppose that counts as optimism. I've not seen any indication that elections themselves are under threat. Given that elections would happen at state level anyway (and absent disbandment of congress) those elections would elect senators and representatives. Which in turn have the power to remove a president. So yes, I see nothin…

They've fired the people responsible for combating foreign interference operations (CISA), have positioned the FBI and DOJ to investigate political adversaries, and have set up the military to follow unlawful orders. Buckle up. I will be surprised if we have free and fair elections, if we have them at all.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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When you’re refactoring a system (which is really what he’s claiming to want to do) you don’t just delete the repository and start with main(). You figure out where the edges are, how they fit together, where are the Chesterton Fences and how can we protect them until they’re understood. A/B unit testing. This takes a non-zero amount of time and it takes careful consideration by subject experts. I can’t really speak…

I generally agree with you, but I have worked with many balls of mud that actually can not be understood even with experts and research without an unreasonable amount of time. Things like a program that runs in a database that was bought from a vendor that has since gone out of business, and the program ostensibly formats some rows and puts them into another table, but we don't know and can't know if anything else is…

Thank you for the thoughtful response- and best of luck to you and your child.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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I didn’t say I was in favor of axing all govt positions and grants, dude.

You didn't say that, but you're supporting the guys who did.

This is the first thread ive commented on since trump was inaugurated and it’s sad to see HN has turned into Reddit.

emotionally charged, bad faith assumptions at the smallest whiff of independent thought.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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You seem to be oblivious to the fact that you can type that comment in a web browser and post it on the internet is due in large part to decades of people funded by the NSF and then making the knowledge they discovered freely available.

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Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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Modest proposal: hacker news is not the most left leaning of web forums, However, there seems to be a fairly consistent and relatively unanimous view that the actions of the current republican administration are deeply problematic. If you happen to be one of those people who thought that voting for the Republicans was in your best interest, yet you are shocked and horrified by what the Republicans are currently doing…

I did not vote GOP, at least not the president and most offices.

I fully expected this outcome, and support it.

Despite your accusations, I ask you to consider that it is you who needs to assess your sources of information as well as your political stances. I was previously an avid watcher of PBS NewsHour but stopped due to the constant, obvious propaganda in the 2016 election cycle. WETA and NPR should get defunded first. When you have people who watched Lehrer say that: oopsies. As a Wikipedian, the entire left of center information space has become trash, no better than Fox News. WETA may have cleaned up their act, but alas it's too late for that. This is not a win for the GOP, this is a failure of the left and its thought leaders who still continue drinking the Kool-Aid. Trying to break out of your propaganda system will be extremely difficult and dare I say dangerous, so don't take it lightly.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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> You mentioned CA which is rebuilding from massive fires, can they afford that? Yes. > What about Arizona, 2021 to 2022 19% of their schools budget was federal funding. They are an outlier, but mostly because they spend so little: https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statisti... > What happens if there is a natural disaster, Trump can withhold funds to force changes. Can a state turn down that level o…

> yes Can you explain why you think this? The financial outlook isn't good, not terrible but still. "No Capacity for New Commitments State Faces Annual Multiyear Deficits of Around $20b" [1] >Indeed. And the Blue States have way more money than most of the Red states. Based on what? Note that GDP doesn't represent available funds to state governments >But many sides can play this game once the can of worms is open Tr…

> "No Capacity for New Commitments State Faces Annual Multiyear Deficits of Around $20b" [1]

The budget of California is $320B. This is more than the _entire_ discretionary budget of the US.

> "Ric Grenell, a Trump ally serving as his envoy for special missions, said Friday that “there will be conditions” to any federal aid for the state.

Yeah, these are public statements. I expect that there's frantic back-room dealing right now to make sure that the relief funds are not attached to any conditions. Because in the long-term, that will benefit the states that have money.

> Why would you assume the Democrats would do that?

Because the Democrats who are unwilling to play ball will not get re-elected. I'm not talking about this electoral cycle, this will take a bit more time. For Republicans, it took about 8 years to get from the Tea Party to MAGAs.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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Many are surprised by this, but if you think of it as Trump's getting paid to set the US back so others can catch up, then it makes a lot of sense.

Just who do you think is going to catch up? Germany? China? Wishful thinking in the extreme if you think anyone is going to fill the void.

Re: Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Experimentation is gone

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CA spends around $11B on the University of California system. The NIH budget is $47B. I haven't done the math, but I would hazard that the total amount of money spent on science by the Federal and the individual state authorities would be comparable. It's just that historically the Federal government was leading with the fundamental research, but if push comes to shove, states can start spinning up replacement progra…

I foresee three big challenges to funding science at the state level. Shifting to state-level funding would require states to independently raise new taxes. Each state would have to work within the constraints of its state level constitution for levying that tax. Research would no longer be pork. This seems politically difficult. States would have to either coordinate on which grants to fund or accept a siloed, fragm…

> Each state would have to work within the constraints of its state level constitution for levying that tax.

Interstate compacts exist. For example, states can make an agreement that a company can receive grant funds only if it's incorporated in a state that spends a certain percentage of the budget on scientific research.

San-Francisco (in a ham-fisted way) tried to do something similar, by prohibiting city-sponsored contracts with companies in states that restrict abortion.

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