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Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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I like Claude Sonnet and use it 4 or 5 times a week via ChatLLM to generate code. I started setting up for Claude Code this morning, then remembered how pissed I was at their CEO for the really lame anti-open source and anti-open weight models he was making publicly after the DeepSeek-R rollout - I said NOPE and didn’t install Claude Code.

CEOs should really watch what they say in public. Anyway, this is all just my opinion.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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You can get your HN profile analyzed by it and it's pretty funny :) https://hn-wrapped.kadoa.com/ I'm using this to test the humor of new models.

> Your comments are so perfectly balanced between programming and theology that Stack Overflow keeps redirecting you to the Vatican's GitHub repository.

I chuckled.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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Thank you to the Kagi team for such fast turn around on new LLMs being accessible via the Assistant! The value of Kagi Assistant has been a no-brainer for me.

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I find that giving encouraging messages when you're grateful is a good thing for everyone involved. I want the devs to know that their work is appreciated.

Not everything is a tactical operation to get more subscription purchases - sometimes people like the things they use and want to say thanks and let others know.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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I like to make up my own tests, that way you know it is actually thinking. Tests that require thinking about the physical world are the most revealing. My new favourite is: You have 2 minutes to cool down a cup of coffee to the lowest temp you can. You have two options: 1. Add cold milk immediately, then let it sit for 2 mins. 2. Let it sit for 2 mins, then add cold milk. Which one cools the coffee to the lowest temp…

> I like to make up my own tests You just ruined your own test by publishing it on the internets

Yeah, but he didn’t post the answer.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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Paul, I saw in the notes that using claude with thinking mode requires yml config updates -- any pointers here? I was parsing some commits, and I couldn't tell if you only added architect support through openrouter. Thanks!

Here are the current docs for changing the thinking token limits. https://aider.chat/docs/llms/anthropic.html#thinking-tokens I'll make this less clunky soon.

Thanks. FWIW, it feels to me like this would be best as a global setting, not per-repo? Or, I guess it might be more aider-y to have sane defaults in the app and command line changes. Anyway, happily plugging away with the architect settings now!

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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Neither a statement for or against Grok or Anthropic: I've now just taken to seeing benchmarks as pretty lines or bars on a chart that are in no way reflective of actual ability for my use cases. Claude has consistently scored lower on some benchmarks for me, but when I use it in a real-world codebase, it's consistently been the only one that doesn't veer off course or "feel wrong". The others do. I can't quantify it…

O1 pro is excellent at figuring out complex stuff that Claude misses. It’s my go to mid level debug assistant when Claude spins

I've never had o1 figure something out that Claude Sonnet 3.5 couldn't. I can only imagine the gap has widened with 3.7.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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Kagi LLM benchmark updated with general purpose and thinking mode for Sonnet 3.7. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/llm-benchmark.html Appears to be second most capable general purpose LLM we tried (second to gemini 2.0 pro, in front of gpt-4o). Less impressive in thinking mode, about at the same level as o1-mini and o3-mini (with 8192 token thinking budget). Overall a very nice update, you get higher quality and higher…

How did you chose the 8192 token thinking budget? I've often seen Deepseek R1 use way more than that.

Arbitrary, and even with this budget it is already more verbose (and slower) overall than all the other thinking models - check tokens and latency in the table.

Re: Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code

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Kagi LLM benchmark updated with general purpose and thinking mode for Sonnet 3.7. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/llm-benchmark.html Appears to be second most capable general purpose LLM we tried (second to gemini 2.0 pro, in front of gpt-4o). Less impressive in thinking mode, about at the same level as o1-mini and o3-mini (with 8192 token thinking budget). Overall a very nice update, you get higher quality and higher…

Do you think kagi is the right Eval tool? If so,why?

The right eval tool depends on your evaluation task. Kagi LLM benchmark focuses on using LLMS in the context of information retrieval (which is what Kagi does) which includes measuring reasoning and instruction following capabilities.
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