The real question: do we invite another country to take their seat, or do we rename the arrangement to Four Eyes?
Clearly Trump wants Russia to join 5 eyes.
Trump and Putin can have their own and call it something trendy like "My Opia".
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#22>In a letter to the recently appointed US Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard, senator Ron Wyden of Colorada and representative Andy Biggs of Arizona bluntly ask the administration to kick the UK out of the 65-year-old UK-USA signals intelligence sharing agreement, commonly known as Five Eyes, if they do not now withdraw the demand to Apple. I want to know where the fuck Colarada is. Also, Wyden rep…
The first sentence reads like an SNL sketch.
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#23That's the stupidest thing I've heard this month. (Yes, I am aware of what the rest of the month has been like.)
Either these people have no idea how valuable Five Eyes is, or they know but are still willing to destroy it in a temper tantrum or an attempt at a power play. Either way, they need fired yesterday.
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#24It would be a bit bizarre. The US relies on the UK to do half their domestic spying for them.
Presumably that's why they're asking - doesn't seem like the congressmen like the UK having access to Apple users' data
there is a theory of real politik that says, when the laws actually touch the lives of the lawmakers, that is when the decision changes.. something like that.. How many US Congress members have iPhones? How many have concerns about others reading their msgs ?
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#25Pretty sure the other four should just kick the US out at this point
As should NATO.
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#26The way things are going, I can see the other 4 countries kicking the US out. Or maybe forming their own Org and not feed anything to the US.
It’s probably in the interest of NATO, G7, and Five Eyes to not publicly announce removal attempts for the US. That said, at this point they would be silly if they didn’t shadow ban the US and make alternate arrangements without it included.
Feeding incorrect information to the US is an advantage now, so the US will be made to believe it’s involved.
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#27The way things are going, I can see the other 4 countries kicking the US out. Or maybe forming their own Org and not feed anything to the US.
I mean, our CIA, DIA, and NSA are so fundamentally compromised, I agree.
It doesn't matter if the President is or is not some mole agent. Everything he has done in the first two months is a wet dream for Putin. Across the board. Isolate/sever ties with EU and NATO. Threaten allies. Disrupt FBI, CIA, DIA, NSA with mass firings and incompetent leaders. Clear out the military leadership. Threaten Ukraine. Say Ukraine caused the war. Negotiate "peace" without Ukraine. Pro-Putin Musk rooting around with access rights everywhere. Starting trade wars. Disrupt EV/alt energy to extend primacy of petroleum. Cut off funding of Ukraine.
So it should be assumed that Putin owns the White House and the US intelligence apparatus. Either that, or any intelligence defense is fundamentally compromised.
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#28Is this administration using reverse psychology on the Europeans? The way they treat Europe makes Europeans like things they did not like before.
Some Europeans now like nuclear weapons, surveillance, the five eyes, getting real tough on Russia. Sounds exactly like a traditional conservative agenda.
Everything this administration does is a psychological game. Sometimes there are indicators, e.g., today the UN security council rubber stamped the Russia friendly resolution. This may or may not mean that the peace efforts are serious.
(Incidentally: Dear Tulsi, the US has been spying on the EU for decades and has special arrangements like access to all EU SWIFT transactions. But I guess you knew that already.)
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