I kept waiting for the post to mention the German company who make Things.app (culturedcode.com). It seems like a good example of the ethos.
Dollar for dollar, Things is probably the single best app I’ve ever used. I can’t recommend it enough.
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#32How can they compete with well capitalized start ups?
Stability, sustainability, EU legislation compliance and taking care of your individual problems. If it goes well, the companies will grow with you and don't outgrow you. I think there is a growing Digital Mittelstand in Germany already. I myself work for such a company. We have some strong VC-backed competition. So far the company, self-financed, fares quite well. I think the author misses a plethora of B2B markets…
Super interesting niche products, that were crucial for people's day to day work, sustainable work pace, always shipping interesting features every other week. A lot of focus on quality (the QA:Dev ratio was 1:1 in one of those for example).
A lot different from the "we must rule the world or die" from regular startups outside Germany. Incidentally one of those companies I was in just died, after getting from 50-90 (when I was there) to 900 employees. I'm glad I left before the decline.
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Dollar for dollar, Things is probably the single best app I’ve ever used. I can’t recommend it enough.
It's a company that seems to care more about craftsmanship than becoming the next big thing.
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#35For start Germany needs better internet connectivity. Getting 1gbps symmetric fiber or 5G coverage is a scifi! Even Romania has better infrastructure!
Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/internet-...
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#36Just fining Meta and Google a few billions every year isn't enough. Need to either tax all that digital pollution they bring over here.
And now they clearly aren't our partners anymore. With China not sharing democratic values and wanting to invade Taiwan, and the US setting up a trade war against us and at the same time siding with our enemy Russia that has just invaded Ukraine...
We need to have our own tech, for everything.
Similar to what US is doing against China, we should have a strong position against both of them. And one that strikes close at heart in the US are the Big Techs.
It's hilarious that we don't let even Fanta be sold with the terrible chemical formula it has here in the EU, like they have in the US.
But when it's about manipulating people's opinions with the US's social networks and communication apps. We are ok with that.
I'm sure anybody nowadays can build similar software than Meta or Google did. Even now more with AI search being so good.
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#38How can they compete with well capitalized start ups?
Dumping is illegal in a lot of commodities markets and physical goods industries but it's standard operating practice in software. It's hard to even imagine how different the software world would look if dumping were at least regulated.
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#39I didn’t find this article credible. It is arguing for small and medium businesses instead of startups, and offers steps to see the vision it paints. But startups are where some of the biggest game changing ideas come from. Large enterprises can sometimes do that too. I feel like the mid sized companies are often stagnant. The product areas it suggests for businesses are very hard to survive in. These other lines sor…
Most people don't want a mass of game changers. They want durabilty and reliabilty.
Turns out if you make products that last forever, you end up with less sales in the long run putting you out of business when your customer base values the c convenience of cheap modern ewaste versus pricey things that last forever.
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#40I didn’t find this article credible. It is arguing for small and medium businesses instead of startups, and offers steps to see the vision it paints. But startups are where some of the biggest game changing ideas come from. Large enterprises can sometimes do that too. I feel like the mid sized companies are often stagnant. The product areas it suggests for businesses are very hard to survive in. These other lines sor…
>> However, if you’ve ever used a product marked “Made in Germany,” you’ll understand what German culture truly values: mastery of a craft and uncompromising quality. What is OP smoking? I have a Bosch oven, Gigaset DECT phone set and a Fujitsu Siemens laptop, all made in Germany and their quality is complete bottom of the barrel crap, totally the opposite of "craftsmanship and uncompromising quality". Chinese compan…