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Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Post by currymj »

giardini wrote: post #4
osnium123 wrote: post #2

So much for TSMC’s Arizona expansion and Intel’s foundry plans.

TSM has found few American workers willing to work as hard as Taiwan's, so likely no great loss for them.

i often wonder about this.

because if you look at Big Law, investment banking, or private equity, there are a lot of highly-educated Americans who are willing to work as hard as anyone on earth.

so it's got to be something about TSMC's recruiting pipeline, or perhaps what motivations the Americans who get educated for the skills they need have, rather than specifically American laziness.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Post by collingreen »

Bostonian wrote: post #6

It's not the business of the federal government to encourage or discourage investment in an industry. When it does subsidize investment, it often comes with strings attached that don't help the industry in the long run.

I think it requires a lot of mental gymnastics to dismiss the semiconductor industry as anything but critical to all modern economies and militaries. I think it takes similar willful blindness to lump "encourage investment" in with "bring on shore in the name of national security" as if they are exactly the same.

We do a lot of corrupt/wrong subsidizing in this country but that doesn't mean throw the baby out with the bathwater.

If I had a magic wand we'd still have tariffs and subsidize critical infrastructure and expertise - for example I find it very surprising that we don't make sure we always have wartime level of doctors and farmers trained and ready.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Post by logicchains »

currymj wrote: post #14
giardini wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSM has found few American workers willing to work as hard as Taiwan's, so likely no great loss for them.

i often wonder about this. because if you look at Big Law, investment banking, or private equity, there are a lot of highly-educated Americans who are willing to work as hard as anyone on earth. so it's got to be something about TSMC's recruiting pipeline, or perhaps what motivations the Americans who get educated for the skills they need have, rather than specifically American laziness.

It's very simple: the pay at TSMC is shit by American tech standards and Americans capable of doing the job generally have much better-paying options. Paying US-competitive salaries would basically double TSMC's labor cost.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Post by snailmailstare »

currymj wrote: post #14
giardini wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSM has found few American workers willing to work as hard as Taiwan's, so likely no great loss for them.

i often wonder about this. because if you look at Big Law, investment banking, or private equity, there are a lot of highly-educated Americans who are willing to work as hard as anyone on earth. so it's got to be something about TSMC's recruiting pipeline, or perhaps what motivations the Americans who get educated for the skills they need have, rather than specifically American laziness.

In finance you can strut around wall street and cause a bidding war. In chip design you can move your life to a specific shitsville to work for the other employer and get sued before they decide to close down again.
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