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Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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The FT Editorial Board: "America has turned" - https://www.ft.com/content/1511aa42-a9ad-4952-99c8-98bea07d0... Max Hastings: The trauma of Trump: can we still do business with his America? - https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/the-trau... FT: US tech will pay a price for Donald Trump’s approval - https://www.ft.com/content/2347e5d3-cbc2-4128-a108-bb89558e3... FT: How Washington plans to defend the dol…

I suggest you expand your information sources to include contrary perspectives. These read like the typical hysteriaporn to freak normies out. It would be equivalent to my sharing supporting links from the NYTimes or WaPo.

In my experience, the Financial Times aren't terribly biased one way or the other, and do a good job of presenting the relevant facts and views.

If you have similarly significant, unbiased sources presenting some contrary view, it would behoove you to share them, rather than chiding.

If you just want to share your personal views, that is also welcome. The tone-policing and attacking reliable, unbiased sources is pretty empty, though.

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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For what it counts, I deleted my Amazon account today (and lost all my Kindle books in the process), I'll never buy anything from them again. I'll close my S3 storage account with a US company in the coming months : I'll switch to a German service. In the coming weeks, I'll also delete my GMail account (my devices are already deGoogled since many years). There a lot of European alternatives that respect our privacy,…

Beware if you want to use Hetzner's s3, they had a massive repeated outage over the past few days and don't offer any reliability guarantee, not even something like 99.9%. Maybe you're thinking of something else, or don't care if you can't upload/download for a few hours here and there - just wanted to warn as I was surprised by this as a user.

Wait, so is it available now? They had it in free beta for some selected customers, I had no idea it's available already!

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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They launched recently their S3 Storage, so I think some initial issues are inevitable.

True, but then they shouldn't claim "High availability" as an empty promise without even a non-binding expected number, like 99.9%. Also, it's not good that they do not have any status tracker that shows summary stats on uptime over the past, say, year so one can get a quick idea of how reliable the service was historically. The status monitor only has entries for incidences from the past 7 days. It could have been d…

I just had a look at their page. Their S3 is different from Amazon. In AWS, it is global - they synchronize the objects between locations which menas it's eventually consistent but it has amazing SLA. Whereas Hetzner clearly states: "Currently, Object Storage is available in the following locations: Falkenstein, DE (FSN1), Helsinki, FI (HEL1), and Nuremberg, DE (NBG1)." So if I wanted HA, I'd use two locations or more.

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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I am European and I've never even seen anyone talking about it outside the internet. Majority of people do not know and do not care.

This is the reality. Most people even in the US don't care. When you ask the extremists, like some of the people in these threads, to list specific concerns about specific things that the USG is currently doing that they're unaligned with, they struggle. The biggest concern is, I guess, that we've banned trans men from womens sports and removed the X option from gender forms? Look, I think its a distraction for eithe…

> The biggest concern is, I guess, that we've banned trans men from womens sports and removed the X option from gender forms?

Really? The biggest concern? Not wantonly cutting long-running programs (even international commitments) with no regard to consequences, just to see what happens?

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I'm in the U.S. and doing the same. While EU laws don't protect me as well as they would someone on the correct side of the pond, I do still benefit from better integrity and transparency. Would you be up for making recommendations?

for plain e-mail, recommend migadu.com (swiss) . They do only that ------ one thing that seems tricky though, is smartphone OS software. Apple + Google is on like 99% of everything. i went few years with Sailfish, all fine.. but they support only 5y+ old devices, for a reason or another.. and i got tired of waiting, and switched to Android. hmmm

Fastmail as well. they are Australian.

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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I suggest you expand your information sources to include contrary perspectives. These read like the typical hysteriaporn to freak normies out. It would be equivalent to my sharing supporting links from the NYTimes or WaPo.

In my experience, the Financial Times aren't terribly biased one way or the other, and do a good job of presenting the relevant facts and views. If you have similarly significant, unbiased sources presenting some contrary view, it would behoove you to share them, rather than chiding. If you just want to share your personal views, that is also welcome. The tone-policing and attacking reliable, unbiased sources is pret…

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Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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post #119

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I suggest you expand your information sources to include contrary perspectives. These read like the typical hysteriaporn to freak normies out. It would be equivalent to my sharing supporting links from the NYTimes or WaPo.

In my experience, the Financial Times aren't terribly biased one way or the other, and do a good job of presenting the relevant facts and views. If you have similarly significant, unbiased sources presenting some contrary view, it would behoove you to share them, rather than chiding. If you just want to share your personal views, that is also welcome. The tone-policing and attacking reliable, unbiased sources is pret…

I honestly believe the only way to get at "unbiased" sources is to triangulate all the bias. Mainstream publications are largely staffed by paid propagandists. To get at my opinion, you would need to hold all the propaganda in your mind at once, consider "qui bono?", and then find the point of common sense that all these positions are talking around. I would also avoid contemporary professional opinionators except as points of reference. Literally nothing said in such a context by such a person should be taken at face value. Go back to books on history or reflections/memoirs by people who were in the room when decisions were made to get a sense of how political reality operates. Long story short: there are no unbiased mainstream media opinions. If they were unbiased, they wouldn't appear in those publications.

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Perspective from my side of small automation business ownership We started cleaning out company dependents dev stack from not necessary components starting mid last year. This activity just picked up full steam and we're planning block stuff like .microsoft.com and .GitHub.com in our main mikrotik router next month. My engineering team did amazing work divesting our development stack from windows. It is very hard to achieve in automation business. Most software development packaged for windows only. They did so much work replaced hardware vendors who did not work with Linux. Some work good with wine and we keeping them. We have internal company's gitea. We mirror EVERYTHING from GitHub we need internally. Even debian repositories! I expect that we can soon operate without internet connection for core business (install software on company PCs, develop automation code, etc), Company trucks all have 4TB hard drives with everything necessary for work outside the office. We have email and calendar on proton. Highly recommend amazing service and support. US companies cannot keep my company hostage anymore. It is hard to achieve this. But you can do it. Even we did in the field where windows OS is king.

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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Counterpoint, I helped my father buy a model Y and it helps him do the 2 hour drive to visit his grandchildren. The FSD marketing has been a bit over the top but it’s still the best system by far.

In Europe? I believe it works better in the US. Elsewhere in the world it’s still practically useless, yet they’ve been selling it for years on the pretense that it’s just around the corner. Cruise control on a Volkswagen is smarter than “FSD” on a Tesla. It’s just sad for a 7,500 euro feature.

They probably should not have offered it in Europe until they figured it out in their home country. Too many different things to handle in all the different countries.

Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?

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I don’t think most Americans care about how Europe sees us. Instead, there is a thought that Europe uses America to protect its own interests instead of putting its own resources on the line.

America itself has its own problems. America is spending too much money. America has an inflation problem that led to one of the most unpopular presidents ever getting elected again. Many Americans think it’s time to solve America’s problems instead of being feted in European capitals. If that means the rest of world won’t use Gmail, YouTube, or Facebook, so be it. Those companies can take care of themselves.

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