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DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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I like that the focus is on the issues with the disruptors that have been running for a few weeks, not the egregious spending for decades.

I personally wouldn't want my government run by unchecked people who get the value of something off by three orders of magnitude. In a meritocracy private company someone confusing 8M with 8B is at best put in a closet job. More likely getting fired, and probably getting sued. When Jerome Kerviel was off by 5B he went to prison.

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Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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That egregious spending bears a family resemblance to the malfeasance that cost Trump the 2020 election and Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

I bet back in the day you were the complaining about 200000$ toilet seats in Iraq. Now that’s it’s not on your side of politics it’s a fabrication

Both sides for the past decades have been terrible.

Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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I like that the focus is on the issues with the disruptors that have been running for a few weeks, not the egregious spending for decades.

The trashing of a (hopefully) dying octopus.

hopefully to be replaced by something less rotten

Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That egregious spending bears a family resemblance to the malfeasance that cost Trump the 2020 election and Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

I bet back in the day you were the complaining about 200000$ toilet seats in Iraq. Now that’s it’s not on your side of politics it’s a fabrication

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Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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destroying institutions is the plan. it's a cynical party. the only time "build" is mentioned is border walls. unfortunately "great" countries aren't BUILT on fear and cynicism.

I'm still not sold on this. I can't yet distinguish if the plan is to get rid of institutions or to gut what's their and rebuild it how the want it. We may not end up with a smaller government, just a different one.

The Republican plan for the federal government for decades has been to try to kneecap various agencies and departments so fully that they can't function well, go "look how poorly they operate! Time to close it down and let private sector handle it!"

Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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Two points that are often missed: 1. Perfectly tracking every dollar is more expensive than having some slack in the system. There's an optimal amount, at least from an overall value perspective. 2. We spend too much, and both sides of the aisle repeatedly blocked attempts to curb spending for literal decades while our debt got higher. That's how someone doing something coming in with a hatchet and no plan to build g…

Strong points in the face of this inaccurate, politically biased ledger that has revealed zero fraud, corruption or waste.

Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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I like that the focus is on the issues with the disruptors that have been running for a few weeks, not the egregious spending for decades.

There is a dual point:

- many of the organizations cut certainly have done evil which the average American would not support.

- I do not expect Trump to do less evil. I expect him simply to command it more directly.

Re: DOGE's only public ledger is riddled with mistakes

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If anyone has been involved in any sort of internal data analytics this is basically what is expected to happen. Data that is used in a new way tends to turn up all sorts of limitations and soft points. Trump, Musk, etc should have been (read: probably were) well aware this was coming; for what it is worth they've surely seen it a few times in business life.

That being said, I doubt it is much of a factor. The strategy of hitting fast & hard is to bypass the unreliable data by triggering screams from the areas that are most important. In some sense, anticipating this revelation is why the strategy is chosen in the first place. Trying to do massive cuts slowly and carefully gets a few months in to the project then crumbles under the weight of unreliable data and analysis paralysis.

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