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Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

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Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

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A crypto exchange WazirX was hacked for ~$300M, roughly 50% of the users fund gone. There is no action on the CEO since the hack in July 2024. He sits in Dubai. He just got a nod from Supreme Court of SG to just average out the funds and distribute it among the users. No action has been initiated against the company/ceo for losing the fund. He is geared up to launch another company/exchange.

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Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#183

A crypto exchange WazirX was hacked for ~$300M, roughly 50% of the users fund gone. There is no action on the CEO since the hack in July 2024. He sits in Dubai. He just got a nod from Supreme Court of SG to just average out the funds and distribute it among the users. No action has been initiated against the company/ceo for losing the fund. He is geared up to launch another company/exchange.

What action can be taken? There's no law against getting hacked or being a moron.

There is a law against gross negligence. Holding client money comes with other obligations too.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

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There's some info and speculation in these two (distinct) articles, but I'd love to know technical details of where the gaffs were. eg. Was client software compromised? Did the multisig keyholders succumb to social engineering? Were the signers using airgapped machines / hardware devices? https://archive.ph/YMZrq https://blockworks.co/news/bybit-hack-raises-security-questi...

Here is what the CEO wrote on X:

"Bybit ETH multisig cold wallet just made a transfer to our warm wallet about 1 hr ago. It appears that this specific transaction was musked, all the signers saw the musked UI which showed the correct address and the URL was from @safe . However the signing message was to change the smart contract logic of our ETH cold wallet. This resulted Hacker took control of the specific ETH cold wallet we signed and transfered all ETH in the cold wallet to this unidentified address."

[yes, it says 'musked', assuming they meant masked. @safe is https://safe.global/wallet]

Unfortunately most hardware wallets can't interpret EVM smart contract transactions and asks you to sign a big binary blob that is supposed to match what you see on your computer screen (it's literally called blind signing). He said in the tweet and later on a live stream that they verified that the URL was correct, and there were several signers in different locations on different machines.

Logically the UI must have been manipulated for all of them, which I can think of a few different ways to do:

- The signing link was replaced somehow over whatever medium they sent it to each other, pointing to something that either looks like the original UI (perhaps IDN homograph domain) or is the actual site if it has some weakness that allows script injection to manipulate the page

- The server side was exploited to serve a manipulated page

- Client side malware that injects something in the browser to manipulate the page

- Some kind of network/DNS attack combined with mis-issued TLS certificate (or injected CA)

It points to some level of sophistication and long-term observation of their internal systems to know what the process looks like and devising an attack.

Will be interesting to read when/if they release a full analysis.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You like decentralized money without laws and accountability, but would like to have a central thing (TBD) that is accountable and respect laws? How would that work?

I'm not too sure but few things come to mind: 1. Upgrade protocol to include protections for well known cold wallets held by exchanges (ex: API call has to be made to the exchange's security endpoint to validate each transaction out of the wallet. Exchange staff would need to manually allowlist large transactions before they are transmitted). 2. Decentralized voting on reversal of transactions (90-95%+ vote needed to…

Not going to work, otherwise it would already have been done.

People who control or take advantage of cryptocurrency don't want this to happen.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#186

I'm a huge crypto believer but I can admit that we don't have a serious system if a person can just transfer over $1.5B from a well known crypto cold wallet to different accounts with nothing flagging it and no way to reverse it.

In the face of the never-ending list of these kinds of events, the laughably impossible task of average nontechnical individuals protecting their own assets (and the consequence of total financial ruin when they fail to do so), the overwhelming number of and size of scams, rug pulls, fraud, outright Ponzi schemes, and on and on and on… what exactly is left to keep anyone a “huge believer”? Put differently, it’s been…

> what exactly is left to keep anyone a “huge believer”?

I don't really engage in the ponzibucks part and don't touch exchanges except to on and off-ramp, and use crypto to pay for things like hosting, seedboxes, or other services I might not necessarily want my debit card directly attached to.

I like sending vendors $100 and spending $0.00005 in transaction fees and knowing that they'll get $100 (or $99 with some 3rd party integration like Coinbase Commerce) versus spending $100, of which Stripe gets $5 of and the vendor only sees ~$95 if I don't feel like I need the protections of a card, which is frequent but not all the time.

Crypto fits a niche in my life well, despite the wider crypto world having dumb controversies. Just like my HSBC bank account fits a niche well, despite HSBC's wikipedia page being ~50% controversy section by word count.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#187

>Bybit CEO Ben Zhou wrote on X that a hacker "took control of the specific ETH cold wallet and transferred all the ETH in the cold wallet to this unidentified address." Um how tf does a cold wallet get hacked?

Have to wait for a post-mortem, but there was some speculation from Ben earlier in his spaces.

They used a gnosis safe which is a smart contract multi-sig wallet that is pretty much the gold standard for Ethereum.

They believed that all of the signers' pcs were hacked and that the UI for signing was staged with a fake element to make it appear like a normal transfer.

They were signing with hardware wallets, but it's hard to verify what you're signing from a ledger typically.

What they ended up signing instead was an upgrade to the smart contract giving control of the gnosis safe to the hacker who then drained it.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#188

I'm a huge crypto believer but I can admit that we don't have a serious system if a person can just transfer over $1.5B from a well known crypto cold wallet to different accounts with nothing flagging it and no way to reverse it.

Right on. My bank calls me every time I send money out. And I'm talking like $50. I used to find it annoying, but now I'm blown away every financial system doesn't...

On the one hand, I understand banks attempting to protect customers and limit liability, on the other hand, frankly I have better things to do with my time than spend 30 minutes waiting in a phone queue because I had the audacity to go on holiday and attempt to spend $20 on ice cream.

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

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There should be something like a "finalizing transaction", which both the sender and receiver need to sign after the first transaction has been mined, i.e. like an in-built escrow. If it's not signed by both, then funds are returned. This wouldn't protect against key leakage, but in this case, the tx was signed by accident. This would also protect against sending to wrong address.

There are cryptocurrencies in which transactions must be signed by both sender and receiver, such as those implementing the pure Mimblewimble protocol. > Both the sender and receiver need to sign after the first transaction has been mined That makes no sense; miners don't mine transactions unless they're guaranteed to be valid. All signing must be done before transactions are even published. Otherwise one could DoD-a…

What does DoD stand for, in this context?

Re: Bybit loses $1.5B in hack

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto shenanigans were happening in 2015, even as far back as 2010, so I would have to absolutely believed you to hear that it continues happening, as crypto is a fundamentally unstable platform.

I think he means the sheer volume

Mt. Gox (a former crypto exchange) was hacked in 2014 and the thieves stole nearly half a billion dollars in BTC. Considering how much more the currency is worth today and how much bigger the markets are, it seems like Bybit got off easy in terms of sheer volume.
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