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Do we have any sense that this is actually real and not a carefully crafted made up demo?
They do have an RL controller running for the legs, but it's just an intermediate controller and it probably get high level commands from a teleoperator. The upper body is purely teleop.
The hardware is maybe 4% of robotics. 96% is the AI behind it.
The hardware is maybe 4% of robotics. 96% is the AI behind it.
1X is different. This is purely a hardware demo, they are doing pure teleop on the software side, no AI in the demo (except maybe RL for walking). 1X's bit thing was always their mechanically compliant safe hardware.
It's really telling how we're shaping our artificial helpers to not have a mouth, but eyes are alright. As if they're allowed to receive input but they should not bother us with any output! For me an ideal artificial helper would be something I could have in the house and talk back and forth with while it works or have it as part of the dinner conversation. Think Bicentennial Man. Now that's what I want.
It's really telling how we're shaping our artificial helpers to not have a mouth, but eyes are alright. As if they're allowed to receive input but they should not bother us with any output! For me an ideal artificial helper would be something I could have in the house and talk back and forth with while it works or have it as part of the dinner conversation. Think Bicentennial Man. Now that's what I want.
Do we have any sense that this is actually real and not a carefully crafted made up demo?
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Apparently, they are using the robot in employee homes: "We've been dogfooding NEO Gamma in 1X employee homes for weeks now, doing chores around the house. Under the suit, NEO Gamma has a lot of HW improvements that make it more reliable. The 1X AI team also pushed hard to get natural human-like walking, sitting, and bending down to pick things off the ground. My conviction that the humanoid form factor is the only v…
> the humanoid form factor is the only viable shape for serving labor in a home I have never heard a good argument for why this might be the case. Anyone care to chime in? I know that "built environment" and "ergonomics" exist but generally there is a lot of open space in a home that allows for a vast array of possible form factors.
Sure a team of robots could just trigger APIs and swarm around the house, but that’s a lot of moving parts. Alternatively, we could build our home for robots’ use, accept our homes aren’t made for us, and hope the form factors don’t change over the lifespan of the building.
Do we have any sense that this is actually real and not a carefully crafted made up demo?
It's teleop, they are pretty open about it. It's not autonomous. They do have an RL controller running for the legs, but it's just an intermediate controller and it probably get high level commands from a teleoperator. The upper body is purely teleop.
I'm very skeptical, even if this technology worked flawlessly, that this would scale towards a profitable business. I understand that not every robot would require 24x7 human assistance, but still - this is a very optimistic business model.
Robotics has always been in competition with minimum wage labor. How long could you hire a maid before making a return on the cost of the robot? And that's assuming the robot isn't worse, which it is pretty much guaranteed to be.
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It's teleop, they are pretty open about it. It's not autonomous. They do have an RL controller running for the legs, but it's just an intermediate controller and it probably get high level commands from a teleoperator. The upper body is purely teleop.
So you're paying someone to operate your robot on top of the cost of the robot? I'm very skeptical, even if this technology worked flawlessly, that this would scale towards a profitable business. I understand that not every robot would require 24x7 human assistance, but still - this is a very optimistic business model. Robotics has always been in competition with minimum wage labor. How long could you hire a maid bef…