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Broken legs and ankles heal better if you walk on them within weeks

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Re: Broken legs and ankles heal better if you walk on them within weeks

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Post by baxtr »

hinkley wrote: post #302
baxtr wrote: post #243

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Interesting. For me PF gets worse when I walk more. Even with special soles. Still trying to figure out what works.

Shoes with a wider toe box. Take your uncomfortable shoes to a reuse/charity drop off and never look back. Every time I wore shoes that were too narrow my problems multiplied. Reworking the laces helped a bit but it was not enough and I had to switch brands.

Yeah, made the same experience.

But it’s more than wide boxes. For example I had some nice big New Balance and they were horrible. I think mainly because of the cushions. ASICS work best for me.

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Post by hinkley »

baxtr wrote: post #331
hinkley wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shoes with a wider toe box. Take your uncomfortable shoes to a reuse/charity drop off and never look back. Every time I wore shoes that were too narrow my problems multiplied. Reworking the laces helped a bit but it was not enough and I had to switch brands.

Yeah, made the same experience. But it’s more than wide boxes. For example I had some nice big New Balance and they were horrible. I think mainly because of the cushions. ASICS work best for me.

Merrell sells their insoles separately from the shoes, and a hell of a lot cheaper than the various aftermarket ones. I ditch the factory insoles first thing.

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Post by adrianN »

lennxa wrote: post #253
notShabu wrote: post #231

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The cost of this increased healing rate would be the tail risk of compounding injury though. It's not something a doctor could recommend even if it were true for everyone consistently.

if it were true for everyone consistently (faster better healing), where does the tail risk come from?

Even if the outcome distribution is the same for everyone and the expected outcome is better healing, you can increase the risk of much worse outcomes if the distribution has the right shape.

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Post by myheartisinohio »

taneq wrote: post #22

The human body (like most fit organisms) is antifragile. It needs to be challenged. In this context, people who think "ooh that hurts I'll never do that again" and carefully avoid discomfort find that, by middle age, they can't do anything, and everything hurts. Meanwhile people who think "ooh that hurts, I'd better practise it until it doesn't" are still fully functional into old age because they push their bodies i…

Absolutely. One grandmother worked as a farmer. The other worked as an book keeper. The book keeper who believed "exercise is for other people" is frail and extremely week. The farmer is also weak but is far more independent and is seldom sick.

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Post by shermantanktop »

jacksnipe wrote: post #315
potamic wrote: post #233

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Sorry, which comment are you affirming?

Go until just before it hurts, which is a moving target that you will have to calibrate carefully

Would you give the same advice to someone with a chronic pain condition?

Re: Broken legs and ankles heal better if you walk on them within weeks

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Post by jacksnipe »

shermantanktop wrote: post #335
jacksnipe wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go until just before it hurts, which is a moving target that you will have to calibrate carefully

Would you give the same advice to someone with a chronic pain condition?

I don't know, I'm not a doctor and I'm not giving advice to anybody!

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Post by ehnto »

cooljacob204 wrote: post #289
eweise wrote: post #195

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Almost everyone I know that mountain bikes, had broken their collarbone.

I plan to purchase one in the spring. This thread is giving me second thoughts lmao.

Nah do it, it added a whole new dimension to my life. You can mitigate the risk a lot, I ride fast and am definitely a bit too ambitious at times, but you can aslo ride more relaxed and safely progress your skills.

Jumping is anecdotally where most noobs bin it hard, you don't need to do jumps at all if you don't want. Many people ride around them.

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Post by didntknowyou »

rodary wrote: post #212

Anecdotal but... Broke my femur neck on a mountain bike. Surgery, plates and screws. Surgeon said no weight on the broken bone for 8 weeks and no walking on it for 12. And then we'll see he said. In 4 weeks I was on a trainer (fork fixed to the trainer). Started easy with 30min sessions and then increased time and force applied to the pedals. After 2 weeks of "riding", started putting weight on the bone with short wa…

idk most doctors would not say don't use your limbs for 8 weeks, that would lead to atrophy. but a lot of doctors give generic advice to avoid lawsuits.

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Post by nurettin »

rodary wrote: post #212

Anecdotal but... Broke my femur neck on a mountain bike. Surgery, plates and screws. Surgeon said no weight on the broken bone for 8 weeks and no walking on it for 12. And then we'll see he said. In 4 weeks I was on a trainer (fork fixed to the trainer). Started easy with 30min sessions and then increased time and force applied to the pedals. After 2 weeks of "riding", started putting weight on the bone with short wa…

Anti-anecdotal: Old family member cracked a femur neck. Tried to stand on it after a few weeks despite warnings, broke it, had to go to surgery, plates and screws. A few more weeks of resting and she would have been fine.

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Post by Doxin »

taneq wrote: post #22

The human body (like most fit organisms) is antifragile. It needs to be challenged. In this context, people who think "ooh that hurts I'll never do that again" and carefully avoid discomfort find that, by middle age, they can't do anything, and everything hurts. Meanwhile people who think "ooh that hurts, I'd better practise it until it doesn't" are still fully functional into old age because they push their bodies i…

This sort of thing starts at a WAY younger age than people imagine too. I'm 30 and used to not be able to stand up from sitting on the ground without grunting and effort.

Got a dog. Sit on the floor to play with him all the time. Can now stand up from sitting on the ground without effort or grunting or using my arms to push myself up.

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