It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.
How? In the UK, there's no right to bear arms, so people are pretty helpless against their oppressing government.
Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
When UK demanded a backdoor to e2ee in iMessage, Apple told them they’d rather get out of UK. Why not do the same here? You’re posing a false dichotomy.
> Apple told them they’d rather get out of UK To my knowledge, Apple has always said that their response would be to withdraw affected services rather than break encryption. > Apple has said planned changes to British surveillance laws could affect iPhone users’ privacy by forcing it to withdraw security features, which could ultimately lead to the closure of services such as FaceTime and iMessage in the UK. https://…
IMO they could’ve categorized the whole iCloud service as “affected” and disable all of it.
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#153What exactly can UK users do now? Turn off "backup iPhone to iCloud" and stop syncing notes?
“Customers who are already using Advanced Data Protection, or ADP, will need to manually disable it during an unspecified grace period to keep their iCloud accounts, according to the report. Apple said it will issue additional guidance in the future to affected users and that it "does not have the ability to automatically disable it on their behalf."
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#154It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.
How? In the UK, there's no right to bear arms, so people are pretty helpless against their oppressing government.
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article reports that it will be disabled for existing users at a later date.
I'm guessing this is because they haven't figured out a way to do it yet. I'm not very well versed in how these systems work but surely this type of encryption can't be disabled by Apple remotely (or they would have that backdoor they don't want)?
> Customers already using Advanced Data Protection, or ADP, will need to manually disable it during an unspecified grace period to keep their iCloud accounts. The company said it will issue additional guidance in the future to affected users and that it does not have the ability to automatically disable it on their behalf.
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#156This can set a dangerous precedent. Now why wouldn’t any country demand the same, basically eliminating Advanced Data Protection everywhere, making user data easily accessible to Apple (and therefore governments)?
It isn't really a precedent. Companies, even high-rolling American tech companies, have to abide by the laws and regulations of the countries that they operate in. I guess there is a question of whether this is a legal demand that they truly had to follow, or just a request, and whether they could fight it in court, but Apple seems to be hoping to adjudicate it in the court of public opinion (apparently the initial b…
In this case, the UK is seeking to use local law to change what is allowable on an international basis.
That's a bit different than a nation controlling the law on their own soil.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's literally the number one story on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ as I type this comment.
And I guarantee that the reaction from most people will be "good, I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to worry about". The apathy around this stuff in the UK is unbelivable - I've been trying to point out that hey, for years now something like 17 government agencies(including DEFRA - department of agriculture lol) can access your internet browsing history WITHOUT A WARRANT and that's absolutely fine. ISPs are re…
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#160Let's vote Labor and Liberal to keep the UK from going fascist on our data. Oh wait....shit.