I don't get what's happening to civil liberty in Europe.
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Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
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#92It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.
> let the people pressure the government.
Hopefully they will.
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#93I don't get what's happening to civil liberty in Europe.
This was Brexits doing. As we are no longer EU, we have our own cool rules such as the upcoming PM allowed to watch me take a piss law.
> This was Brexits doing.
Not really? We've had horrors like the 2000 RIP[0] well before Brexit. The Blair government made a huge dent in civil liberties and the Tories carried it on.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Po...
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#94As someone currently a citizen of the UK, what are my best emigration opportunities?
If you value personal freedoms, you should go to East Europe. The more to the east, the better. Snowden went to Russia.
freedom to _what_? Corruption is high, media is pretty restricted under Orban, and it doesn't look all that great for freely expressing your identity either. Whether Poland will follow their direction or manage to turn around is still up in the air.
You're only more "free" there if you have the money to bribe officials.
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#95I regret immensely not having turned ADP before... Now I'm feeling really angry at this whole thing.
If you care, then it's time to ditch iPhone and Android phones altogether. It's not like anything they offer will be safe. You need to invest instead in a FairPhone with e/OS or a PinePhone or some similar alternative. Something where you have complete control of the software and ideally the hardware.
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#96How does this affect me if I travel to the UK with an E2E encrypted IThing?
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#97How does this affect me if I travel to the UK with an E2E encrypted IThing?
not at all
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#98Removed all my stuff from iCloud about a month ago in preparation for this.
Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
But Apple could say, you have 45 days to remove it or we will delete it, then you have to resync your data.
Why would they? What priorities are better served by that approach?
Why would they say to all new users, that they cannot have Advanced Data Protection, whereas older customers can?
Now you have a certain percentage of users with encrypted data, and a certain percentage of users that do not. The UK government will not like that. And now Apple has shown that it will not take a stand for privacy it might have to do it to comply.
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#100This can set a dangerous precedent. Now why wouldn’t any country demand the same, basically eliminating Advanced Data Protection everywhere, making user data easily accessible to Apple (and therefore governments)?
what do you mean? other countries have demanded the same, e.g. China.