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Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
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Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#52If you download one book you're a criminal. If they download millions of books, that's just business.
> If they download millions of books ... ... as a private individual, you are toast. I think the more appropriate quote to paraphrase would be one from Dennis Hopper's character in the film Speed (1994): "Oh, no. Poor people are pirates, Jack. We are tech innovators!"
When did he say that? I watched it recently, and don't recall that line at all...
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#53If you download one book you're a criminal. If they download millions of books, that's just business.
Depends on your jurisdiction. In Switzerland, downloading games, books, music, movies etc. for personal use is always legal even if the copy is "pirated". Work just needs to be published in any form. Dont know any other country where it works like this.
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#54If this was 15-20 years ago, arguably at the peak of P2P filesharing, I suspect most people would side with Meta.
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#55We have TV culture not recognizing the Internet culture.
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#56It's certainly nice to see someone accused of bittorrenting with the bankroll to come up with a decent legal defense team.
Isn't Meta going to be battling the full legal team of the entertainment industry with this argument? I think Meta did something stupid with this argument, because there is no way that Hollywood or the music industry is going be pleased with a precedence for legally downloading copyrighted material. They will now do everything in their power to get Meta found guilty.
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't a decent defence, it's a losing desperate one.
They can just bribe the president.
Maybe Trump will legalise internet-based copying.
After all, the main people hurt would be Hollywood, which is run by people supporting the Democrats. And it would be popular with many voters (not an issue for Trump but it is for Republicans).
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't a decent defence, it's a losing desperate one.
They can just bribe the president.
Not sure if he has the power to, and if everyone else will let him, but some EOs opening up the copyright system would be very welcome. There are already some things he's done around this:
https://www.omm.com/insights/alerts-publications/trump-admin...
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If they download millions of books ... ... as a private individual, you are toast. I think the more appropriate quote to paraphrase would be one from Dennis Hopper's character in the film Speed (1994): "Oh, no. Poor people are pirates, Jack. We are tech innovators!"
When did he say that? I watched it recently, and don't recall that line at all...
The scene where Jack climbs down the hole under the garbage can into the subway, having figured out the ransom money has moved. He tries to hold up Payne, who reveals he's holding Annie hostage.
Re: Meta claims torrenting pirated books isn't illegal without proof of seeding
#60I am curious, where did the other companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, et al) get their training data from? Why is only Meta under fire for this?