Huh, I've suddenly been getting calls from recruiters for the first time since COVID, so I have no clue what is going on with the market.
Software engineering job openings hit five-year low?
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#162The charts show software dev gaining more jobs under the COVID demand and stimulus swing, and then losing more as those went away and monetary policy got tighter than even it had been even before the COVID stimulus. The easiest explanation for the whole chart is "Software dev is more reactive to the monetary policy environment than most other industries, because more of it is funded by new capital investment -- wheth…
Kind of makes you wonder what percentage of software devs are actually working the famed "bullshit jobs"?
Re: Software engineering job openings hit five-year low?
#163The charts show software dev gaining more jobs under the COVID demand and stimulus swing, and then losing more as those went away and monetary policy got tighter than even it had been even before the COVID stimulus. The easiest explanation for the whole chart is "Software dev is more reactive to the monetary policy environment than most other industries, because more of it is funded by new capital investment -- wheth…
Kind of makes you wonder what percentage of software devs are actually working the famed "bullshit jobs"?
And even if they produce "real" products. How many of them are needed. How many of them are redoing the same thing. And how many could in perfect world be done more efficiently by resusing some common solution.
Re: Software engineering job openings hit five-year low?
#164The charts show software dev gaining more jobs under the COVID demand and stimulus swing, and then losing more as those went away and monetary policy got tighter than even it had been even before the COVID stimulus. The easiest explanation for the whole chart is "Software dev is more reactive to the monetary policy environment than most other industries, because more of it is funded by new capital investment -- wheth…
I tend to agree with you, if only because the swing in Europe on the IT job market has had less amplitude and is more spread out, similar to the difference in stimulus policy.
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#165I am not sure how things work in US but, living in an Eastern European country, I can say that salaries started growing, almost reaching western european levels, after which many foreign companies closed offices and moved to cheaper countries like India and Pakistan.
That's pretty weird. Usually, less companies mean less demand for labor. If supply is the same, that means price-for-labor (salaries) would go down. Unless, this was accompanied by people leaving (reduction in supply). Do you have an explanation for this?
The salaries were growing. After that, some companies left for countries where they found cheaper labor.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do you hear about them
Hackernews. Check the monthly "Who's hiring?" and "Who wants to be hired?" threads. Posting on the latter is how I landed my current job.
Unfortunately that hasn't been quite so busy lately https://hnhiring.com/trends
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#167Kind of strange to see no mention of outsourcing in an otherwise detailed analysis
everything provided by offshoring to india is just an expensive tech debt full of spaghetti code. it simply doesn't work and causes harm to the customers. but because cheap it keeps getting sold. working with indians is a nightmare bar none. and i'm saying this as someone who has been to india and is also personally intrigued by its culture. but it's conway's law all the way - visit places like mumbai or delhi and this is what you'll get ... chaos that kind of works.
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#168If AI makes a programmer say 25% more productive. Then a team of 4 can do the workload of a team of 5.
It makes the competition 25% more productive too.
If there is a finite amount of software to be written in the world, and an increase in productivity of developers than that amount of software is done with less people. Also, if AI allows an non-software person say an marketing person, write a python script to query a few databases. Than the 10 person business data science team might not need a body as they no longer have to deal with the 10% lower level stuff.
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#169yet hiring is as difficult as it's even been
Re: Software engineering job openings hit five-year low?
#170The charts show software dev gaining more jobs under the COVID demand and stimulus swing, and then losing more as those went away and monetary policy got tighter than even it had been even before the COVID stimulus. The easiest explanation for the whole chart is "Software dev is more reactive to the monetary policy environment than most other industries, because more of it is funded by new capital investment -- wheth…
Kind of makes you wonder what percentage of software devs are actually working the famed "bullshit jobs"?
I believe many software tools work like a vice for beurocrats making the beurocracy way less efficient.
Like, forcing some not very edge case friendly set of text field validation rules onto the beurocrats such that he can't just do what he tries to do as he could with paper work.
In many orgs. nowadays the processes seem to be made to fit the computer programs not the needs of the beurocracy.