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I don't buy the propaganda angle, but why bother hacking when companies will happily upload their sensitive data to you.
You know DeepSeek is open source and can be self-hosted, right?
DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days
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Why do we need a moat?
_We_ don't. Investors do. Because without being able to gatekeep the rest of the world, there is little money in LLMs.
I guess investors should stop pouring money into LLMs, then. Just like how they don't pour money into pure mathematics.
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#134I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity. There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
Saying that Musk "doesn't have the mindset" for betterment of humanity is just ignorant in a very short-sighted way. Sure, he currently has a side project of fixing the US government and ensuring US doesn't stray too far outside of its core interests, but SpaceX and Tesla are still his bread and butter he has spent most of his time on beside this scenic route. I've followed him closely since ~2016 so I can say this w…
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#135I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity. There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…
LLM's are not that different than programming languages. Imagine Guido van Rossum charging $200 so you can use Python...
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
> DeepSeek is a small company that made a lot of money from other businesses, which makes their lack of focus on commercial interests feel more genuine. Google also made a lot of money from other businesses that aren't AI models, until they started selling AI models, just as DeepSeek now does. The reality is that DeepSeek is a full company, that was funded as a spin-off from the original business (a hedge fund that u…
But the fact that they were donating huge sums every year even when they were still unknown really says something. If they were purely profit-driven, there’s no way the shareholders would have allowed that.
You don't need to be known by the general public to take advantage of tax schemes involving "donating" money
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Appeals to authority are so totally unconvincing. What claims from the semianalysis article do you think are false? And based on what evidence?
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> love your joke!
> Get a real life please.
> Too bad that you didn't learn this back in school.
Read the site guidelines, as you’re repeatedly resorting to personal attacks in your comments on discussions around DeepSeek or China.
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#138Looking forward to it! I'll generally make an effort to use Open Models over proprietary alternatives when the use-case permits as Open Models getting better and more popular encourages more models to become open as well - a requisite for a future to be able to build self-hosted solutions that's not beholden to the control of mega corps and AI monopolies.
Is this actually going to be open source? Or is it going to be just an open weights release? Seeing training code would be interesting. Personally I don’t think even a true open source release would erase the downsides of the model incorporating CCP propaganda and censorship. I would prefer control of megacorps to control of an untrustworthy dictatorship.
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#139I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity. There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
Saying that Musk "doesn't have the mindset" for betterment of humanity is just ignorant in a very short-sighted way. Sure, he currently has a side project of fixing the US government and ensuring US doesn't stray too far outside of its core interests, but SpaceX and Tesla are still his bread and butter he has spent most of his time on beside this scenic route. I've followed him closely since ~2016 so I can say this w…
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#140LLMs have been more legitimate "blockchain" when most CIO magazines had these essays with "What's your blockchain strategy?" kind of stuffed material.
AI bubble will burst and will burst hard. By end of 2026 at max.