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Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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“Pure garage-energy” with 10,000 A100s, apparently. I’d love to have a garage like that.

From https://semianalysis.com/2025/01/31/deepseek-debates/ > We believe DeepSeek has access to around 10,000 of these H800s and about 10,000 H100s. Furthermore they have orders for many more H20’s, with Nvidia having produced over 1 million of the China specific GPU in the last 9 months.

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Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…

Why not for now just applaud them for their actions rather than focus on some potential 3rd order plan? Who knows what any of then might do in the future? For now I'm cheering for Deepseek, Meta and anyone publishing open models as I strongly believe that the potential "danger" of AI in the hands of everyone is far outstripped by the concrete dangers of AI dictated by a select small group of corps/gov symbionts.

I agree with your sentiment, but there’s no harm in being aware that the rhetoric is just PR spin for the strategy the execs think will be the most profitable.

Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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Well, although R1-671b is way too expensive for me to self-host, given their past open source (or weight) contributions, I DO have high expectation of them. Each and every contribution to open source community will be helpful. Thanks DeepSeek!

Would love another MoE that fits in 120GB VRAM for the 128gb Mac owners

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Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…

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Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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post #92

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Why not for now just applaud them for their actions rather than focus on some potential 3rd order plan? Who knows what any of then might do in the future? For now I'm cheering for Deepseek, Meta and anyone publishing open models as I strongly believe that the potential "danger" of AI in the hands of everyone is far outstripped by the concrete dangers of AI dictated by a select small group of corps/gov symbionts.

I agree with your sentiment, but there’s no harm in being aware that the rhetoric is just PR spin for the strategy the execs think will be the most profitable.

At least they are not founded as non-profit with some "greater good" mission or "safety" BS.

Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…

my intuition suggests that because they are not the leaders, they will not stay in news for long. This way you stay on mouth of people for longer period and by publishing code you hurt established giants by allowing much smaller players to compete.

My intuition suggests they will very shortly have state-level resources thrown at them to mean they become a consistent leader. This and Qwen have been huge for China’s prestige and whatever the Chinese for Juche is. Those is unambiguously the next space race, and there’s absolutely no reason China can’t pull ahead of the US here.

Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…

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Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded fie…

Why not for now just applaud them for their actions rather than focus on some potential 3rd order plan? Who knows what any of then might do in the future? For now I'm cheering for Deepseek, Meta and anyone publishing open models as I strongly believe that the potential "danger" of AI in the hands of everyone is far outstripped by the concrete dangers of AI dictated by a select small group of corps/gov symbionts.

Because we have seen this play out exactly as described so many times that that kind of naivety is not justifiable.

Re: DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days

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still way better than ClosedAI

I will call it as it is from now on as well

I actually call it Anti-Humanity AI. Without releasing the tech details of such AI, we all live in the danger that if something goes really wrong, we won't even have the chance to understand the disaster and fix it.

Basically they pocketed all profits with other people footing all the risks.

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