I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity.
There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
DeepSeek Open Infra: Open-Sourcing 5 AI Repos in 5 Days
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#22This is more exciting to me than OpenAI's 12 days of Christmas
Emotionally I agree, but... o1 was a paradigm shift. Nothing DeepSeek has done is on that level yet. DeepSeek themselves would agree. Supposedly Liang Wenfeng himself flew to US to gather information when o1 was launched.
Maybe in terms of advancing scientific knowledge but DeepSeek has achieved a paradigm shift back from opex to capex.
Certain applications are now economically viable when you don't have to pay per request and don't have to fight NVIDIA/sanctions for the privilege
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#23“Pure garage-energy” is a great phrase. Most interested to see their inference stack, hope that’s one of the 5. I think most people are running R1 on a single H200 node but Deepseek had much lower RAM per GPU for their inference and so had some cluster based MoE deployment.
I don't think the RAM size of the H800 was nerfed (80GB), but rather the memory bandwidth between gpus.
But yeah, would be interesting to see how they optimized for that.
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#24> These are humble building blocks of our online service: documented, deployed and battle-tested in production. No vaporware, just code that moved our tiny moonshot forward.
My not-so-innocent guess is that they are looking to crowd-source their online platform (the front-end essentially) in order to reduce costs. Still acceptable though as they made the model open weight and partially re-producible.
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#25Deep respect for DeepSeek and what they've done regarding all the innovations and researches they have been putting out in-the-open.
"Because every line shared becomes collective momentum that accelerates the journey. Daily unlocks begin soon. No ivory towers - just pure garage-energy and community-driven innovation" is a great phase.
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#26Kinda interesting to see where the moat is in AI space. Good base models can always distilled when you have access to API. System prompts can get leaked, and UI tricks can be copied. In the end, the moat might be in the hardware and vertical integration.
there is no open source alternative to GPU farm, that's the moat
that's why they can open source their model and be fine because running this shit is actually hard, let alone maintaining SLA for millions of users??
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#27I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity. There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
Well, it’s a highly effective PR tactic that works well for the small fish. You say your competition is too selfish and you just want to help people and it creates a bunch of goodwill you can use to grow. Once you grow, your view on things changes, and you’re able to be more selfish. It’s not guaranteed things will go that way, but it’s certainly true that this is a good PR tactic for new entrants in to a crowded field. It can also be genuine. When you’re new you don’t have much to lose and it’s easier to be truly altruistic.
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#28I really like this definition of "AGI": When everyone (yes everyone) benefits from very powerful AI models released for free and it is not gate-kept by one company and it costs $0 to use commercially or for research and you can do whatever you want with it. Unlike the other counterpart which believes that "AGI" means: "raising billions of dollars to achieve $100BN of profits to their investors". (Which is complete no…
You’re assuming they won’t follow in OpenAI’s footsteps. OpenAI published a lot for a while and truly changed the world, far more than deepseek has. Only time will tell.
But I think it’d be a mistake to think that this is necessarily beneficial for humanity just because the weights are open. It’s maybe great to commoditize models, but their displacement in jobs, original thought and work, facilitation of disinformation and population psychological warfare doesn’t change… if anything it’s accelerated and harder to temper the bad elements.
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#29I really admire their mindset of striving for the betterment of humanity. There was a time when OpenAI, Anthropic, and even Musk used to talk with that same lofty vision. But now, they've all shifted to competing for national interests instead, which is honestly quite disappointing.
Rich nations see risk, rising giants see leverage.
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#30> Starting next week, we'll open-source 5 repos – one daily drop Probably counts as announcement of announcement? Let’s wait for the actual repo drops before discussing them, especially because there are no details about what will be open sourced other than > These are humble building blocks of our online service: documented, deployed and battle-tested in production.
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