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Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by xvedejas »

cbeach wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

Well, I desired and moved to SF exactly because it's the closest thing to a dense urban jungle that I could find in California. I even dream of moving to a denser part of the city one day, once I can reasonably afford it, but those parts are so in demand to be pricier.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by tshaddox »

cbeach wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

There are lots of places that are not dense urban jungles and are not desirable, so I'm certain your explanation is insufficient.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by perching_aix »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #49
perching_aix wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? Is over-the-air TV broadcast not encrypted and compressed to oblivion in the US? Cause it definitely is here, and you're expected to pay for a decoder card, except for a small handful of channels.

It's not encrypted, no. And the picture quality is very good. Not 4K, but good quality 720 or 1080, depending on the channel.

That's pretty cool. Do you know what kind of codec and bitrate is involved / should I just do my own research?

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by perching_aix »

vlovich123 wrote: post #44
perching_aix wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? Is over-the-air TV broadcast not encrypted and compressed to oblivion in the US? Cause it definitely is here, and you're expected to pay for a decoder card, except for a small handful of channels.

It’s not encrypted but compression and reliability of the signal is a mixed bag. It’s not encrypted because congress mandated it as a condition for privatizing the analog bandwidth (ie there’s a carve out for public digital and broadcasters have to broadcast publicly accessible signal just like they had to on analog)

Oh wow okay, definitely didn't expect this. That's quite the power move. I guess it's also why it's disappearing, at least partly.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by adamiscool8 »

legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

There would be 3-4X the people, yet still the same amount of roads, services, and public utilities. Why is densifying always seen as some unalloyed good? I constantly see this pitched as a plan for housing problems without the basic consideration of whether human beings thrive in such an unnatural environment.

If you're going to force-densify anything, why not actual low-per-capita population areas [0] and develop mass transit, so North America can have the successful China city-tier model [1] with spread-out opportunities instead of cramming everyone together in one place.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:California_population_map...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_city_tier_system

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by skyyler »

cbeach wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

No. It is the good weather capital of the country.

Mild winters, mild summers.

Not too much rain.

No serious threat from tornadoes or hurricanes.

That’s a very big draw and it wouldn’t go away by making more dense housing, even if the rest of the peninsula was developed like Manhattan.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by legitster »

cbeach wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

SF is kind of neither though. If you spend any time in the city, it definitely feels overstuffed. The houses may be cute and small but they are stuffed with roommates. The city is stuck in nostalgia and ignoring that it's bursting at the seams. It's like wearing clothes that are too small and pretending you are still skinny.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by m-ee »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #56
legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

There would be 3-4X the people, yet still the same amount of roads, services, and public utilities. Why is densifying always seen as some unalloyed good? I constantly see this pitched as a plan for housing problems without the basic consideration of whether human beings thrive in such an unnatural environment. If you're going to force-densify anything, why not actual low-per-capita population areas [0] and develop ma…

Public schools are closing due to lack of enrollment. Transit agencies are cutting back from low ridership and lack of fare revenue. If housing costs were low enough for more people to move in affordably it could be a boon for the city.

Re: Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

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Post by toephu2 »

Ten television stations, three FM radio stations, and 20 wireless and mobile communications users (i.e. law enforcement agencies, taxi cabs, school buses, wireless internet, etc.) rely on Sutro Tower antennas to transmit signals over the air to the entire Bay Area.
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