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When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

Xunjin wrote: post #245
ericvolp12 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably what we'll end up with in the long-run. Things have been fast enough without it (aside from this issue) but there's a lot of low-hanging fruit for Timelines architecture updates. We're spread pretty thin from a engineering-hours standpoint atm so there's a lot of intense prioritization going on.

Just to be clear, you are a Bluesky engineer, right? off-topic: how has been dealing with the influx of new users after X political/legals problems aftermath? Did you see an increase in toxicity around the network? And how has you (Bluesky moderation) dealing with it.

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Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by genewitch »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #66

As a systems enthusiast I enjoy articles like this. It is really easy to get into the mindset of "this must be perfect". In the Blekko search engine back end we built an index that was 'eventually consistent' which allowed updates to the index to be propagated to the user facing index more quickly, at the expense that two users doing the exact same query would get slightly different results. If they kept doing those…

PID techniques useful?

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by coldpie »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #180
peoplepostphew wrote: post #178

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1200 people is really nothing, specially if you have a job tangentially related to social media (for example journalists). It's really simple, you are not the same type of user. You have 50 "acquaintances", they have 1200 "sources". The article is talking about people who have following/follower counts in the millions. Those are dozens of writes per second in one feed and a fannout of potentially millions. Someone wi…

Why are you following 1,200 people? What is the point of your home feed? What are you trying to see?

You are on the verge of discovering why non-chronological timelines exist :) It's not hard to imagine that there are 1200 people posting at least one thing a week that you would find interesting. The trouble is, if they also post 100 things that are not interesting, how does the software surface the interesting stuff without drowning you in the non-interesting stuff? How do you do that in a way that feels fair to the user ("I never see Friend X's posts because they're drowned out by the interesting stuff posted by the other 1199 people I follow")? It's tough!

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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ToucanLoucan wrote: post #251
Xunjin wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to be clear, you are a Bluesky engineer, right? off-topic: how has been dealing with the influx of new users after X political/legals problems aftermath? Did you see an increase in toxicity around the network? And how has you (Bluesky moderation) dealing with it.

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Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by NetOpWibby »

immibis wrote: post #233
NetOpWibby wrote: post #198

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Blekko was gone by the time I learned about it. Recently (past few years) I emailed someone who worked on Blekko to get his opinion on a search engine concept I still have yet to start. His advice was to not bother competing with Google (obviously) LOL! I don’t know if anyone’s embarked on a P2P search engine but that’s essentially my concept. Anyhoo, thanks for the inspiration!

Darknet Lantern is a decentralized searchable directory . It's probably not going to take off, but it could inspire something else. Servers spider other servers with the same software, and synchronized their data.

I’ve never heard of this before but it looks interesting. Thanks for the tip!

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by Sloowms »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #251
Xunjin wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to be clear, you are a Bluesky engineer, right? off-topic: how has been dealing with the influx of new users after X political/legals problems aftermath? Did you see an increase in toxicity around the network? And how has you (Bluesky moderation) dealing with it.

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You're not less partisan if you prefer a slimmer range of political leanings.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by rsynnott »

amazingamazing wrote: post #4
dang wrote: post #9

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I don’t understand the infatuation with blue sky. The minute they need money it’ll go the way of the Reddit and twitter.

Twitter was always... not great (there's a reason it was affectionately known as the Hellsite), but it had 16 years of being _tolerable_ for most people (the real exodus only really started with Musk's changes, though there had been a couple of smaller ones previously, mostly over Twitter messing with the API).

Frankly, if I get 16 years out of Bluesky before having to move onto the next one, I can live with that. Social networks _die_; it has always been so. USENET, livejournal, Tumblr, twitter... nothing lasts forever.

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