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I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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Have to say I've never had a single issue with pihole unlike the OP. It's literally been "install and forget" - not a single outage in maybe 3 years of use. When I use the Internet elsewhere I see what a good job it does when I'm at home...

I had very similar sounding issues to the OP and thought it's probably something to do with a suboptimal SD card and/or overheating or memory. I also ended up using NextDNS and tbf really like it. Does a great job at a decent price and the admin is useful. I keep thinking I should just setup another pihole but NextDNS are at a very, very sweet price point that by the time I renew (tbf I think I fit within the free tier but wanted to support it), I just throw them another 20eur.

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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Have to say I've never had a single issue with pihole unlike the OP. It's literally been "install and forget" - not a single outage in maybe 3 years of use. When I use the Internet elsewhere I see what a good job it does when I'm at home...

Do you think that's because of the hardware you're running it on? Do you actually use a Raspberry Pi or something more resilient?

Been running my PiHole on a ZeroPi[1] for many years without issues. Initially it was unstable, but turned out I had been scammed and the USB "charging cable" I had bought at the local electronics store had 1 Ohm resistance. Replaced it with a proper USB cable and it's been rock solid since. So solid I keep forgetting about it in fact.

[1]: https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/product...

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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This is, almost verbatim, my exact same experience. Used pi-hole as an excuse to get a Raspberry Pi. Used it for a long time but got tired of troubleshooting. Discovered NextDNS (from this site), and have been a happy customer since. NextDNS has not been perfect (it looks like they abandoned their app(s)), but it has the added benefit of working outside of my home network.

Regarding the client apps, I find them to be mostly not neccessary now that you can identify clients to DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-HTTPS endpoints. What do you miss?

Being able to disable it on the fly is the number one thing I miss the most. Additionally, it would be nice to interface through the app instead of the website, but that's definitely under nice-to-have; the website is functional on a mobile device.

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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Have to say I've never had a single issue with pihole unlike the OP. It's literally been "install and forget" - not a single outage in maybe 3 years of use. When I use the Internet elsewhere I see what a good job it does when I'm at home...

Mine craps out every 2-3 months for no apparent reason. It doesn't crash, there's no errors in the logs, it just stops responding. I restart the service and it's fine. No idea why. I setup a cron to restart it weekly just to keep it from being a problem.

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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I switched from NextDNS to ControlD because of bugs and feature requests that have been sitting untouched for literally years. I couldn’t even reach anyone to cancel my NextDNS subscription, so I did a chargeback - which went through because the card company was also unable to reach anyone there. It seems to be running in zombie mode.

I just learned about ControlD today and It seems their $2/mo per endpoint is pretty pricey. Do you just set it on your home router and that's it? I use my NextDNS with many different profiles and many unique devices. Are the ControlD features that much better? Edit: I totally missed they have a Personal tab at the top that has different pricing. It is still more expensive for their full control plan.

https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/control-d-5-year-subscript...

ControlD over NextDNS - one is on zombie mode it seems, the other isnt...

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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I'm also a very happy NextDNS user. A couple other thoughts for anyone considering this: • The free plan supports 300,000 queries/month (all features, unlimited devices, unlimited configurations) and is a great and simple way to test drive it. • If you like the idea but want more knobs, many people are also happy with competitor Control D. I'd just caution that the two-year-old comparison¹ on their site is just wrong…

I’m also a happy Tailscale/NextDNS user, but for what it is worth Tailscale integrates with ControlD now too.

https://tailscale.com/kb/1403/control-d

Re: I ditched my Pi-hole but still block ads with NextDNS

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I've just been dumping ad blocking hosts files into /etc/hosts.d/ on my router since long before pi-hole was a thing.

I find pi-hole fascinating since it shows there is a sizeable market for open Linux routers in the home, but for some reason people seem fixated with running it on a raspberry pi. That’s fine, but it seems like the worst of all worlds? I wouldn’t say the Pi is particularly reliable, and it doesn’t have a switch chip inside it, or enough beef for heavier processing. It’s all just standard *nix software that will work…

The Pi is familiar and comfortable for a lot of people who wouldn't otherwise use Linux or run any kind of server. It's genuinely not the best option in a lot of respects, but it's also the only thing a lot of people know and going to a dedicated server or generic Linux/BSD router seems intimidating, even if they appreciate the possible advantages.

Pi Hole was started specifically as a project targeting the Pi. It wasn't the first to do ad blocking DNS by a long shot, but it did marry a nice web UI to DNS and made it a lot more accessible. Nowadays I think there are much better options like AdGuard that do the same thing, but "running PiHole on a Pi" is a tangible thing to do with the RasPi you got as a gift and is an approachable project for a lot of Linux beginners with real benefits. You can find a million people on YouTube recommending exactly that, and walking you through how to do it step-by-step on a RasPi. Lot of people who are interested in tech but not so skilled probably don't have dedicated servers or know how to set one up, and I expect PiHole on a RasPi gets a lot of momentum from that as something cool and actually useful to do that isn't actually difficult/there are a million tutorials for.

Tl;dr is I agree with you, there are clearly technically superior options. But for a lot of the people you're referring to the alternative is not to run something better on a dedicated server/router, it's to do nothing at all and go back to using the router from your ISP.

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