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When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by lhoff »

SteveNuts wrote: post #114
nightpool wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 2019 study of 5 European airports in 2019 had no-show rates of 14.4%: https://www.ozion-airport.com/product/comparative-analysis-n... However, my understanding is that airlines have much more sophisticated per-flight and per-passenger models that calculate the predicted no-show factor based on the historical rates for that particular route (e.g. you're more likely to get more no-shows in business class flying from…

That blows my mind, I would expect maybe 1 or 2 passengers per plane at most. I'm trying to think of what factors would cause that many no-shows, it has to be mostly missed connections? I can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars and just not showing up.

A friend of mine works for a Management Consultancy firm and they have full flex tickets if they miss the 8pm flight home they can take the next one or fly back the next morning. All without additional fees. So I believe business travel is the biggest factor when it comes to missed flights.

Side note: His employer is the biggest client of a major European airline.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by shagie »

SteveNuts wrote: post #114
nightpool wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 2019 study of 5 European airports in 2019 had no-show rates of 14.4%: https://www.ozion-airport.com/product/comparative-analysis-n... However, my understanding is that airlines have much more sophisticated per-flight and per-passenger models that calculate the predicted no-show factor based on the historical rates for that particular route (e.g. you're more likely to get more no-shows in business class flying from…

That blows my mind, I would expect maybe 1 or 2 passengers per plane at most. I'm trying to think of what factors would cause that many no-shows, it has to be mostly missed connections? I can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars and just not showing up.

Delays getting to the airport and missing the plane. Cancelations with full refund. "Hidden city" ticketing. Layover delays. Businesses booking blocks. Flexible flights ( https://www.travelperk.com/guides/flexible-travel/flexible-f... ). Changing / rebooking flights for an earlier or later time.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by immibis »

verdverm wrote: post #98
immibis wrote: post #75

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You have the opportunity to demonstrate this. I am banned from Bluesky. (They didn't tell me why - just a generic "you violated community guidelines") Tell me, concretely, how people can choose to continue following me, even though I am banned. Profile: immibis.bsky.social

Create an account you own instead of having someone else run it. Maybe you can get your data, maybe you can ask Bluesky for a review (there were bugs and scaling issues against bot networks that cause false positives) I'm not seeing that handle resolve in the normal places. Do you have the DID? You should use a custom domain so that you can control the the reference and lookup. You can run your own PDS and manage com…

So after you're banned from Bluesky you create another account on a different server and hope the admins of your original server, which still hosts all the people you want to follow, don't block your new account from interacting with their server?

You said it was different from Mastodon, but how is this different from Mastodon?

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by packetlost »

SteveNuts wrote: post #114
nightpool wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 2019 study of 5 European airports in 2019 had no-show rates of 14.4%: https://www.ozion-airport.com/product/comparative-analysis-n... However, my understanding is that airlines have much more sophisticated per-flight and per-passenger models that calculate the predicted no-show factor based on the historical rates for that particular route (e.g. you're more likely to get more no-shows in business class flying from…

That blows my mind, I would expect maybe 1 or 2 passengers per plane at most. I'm trying to think of what factors would cause that many no-shows, it has to be mostly missed connections? I can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars and just not showing up.

I'm sure other factors such as sudden illness and migrateable tickets make a sizeable chunk too.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by pessimizer »

autobodie wrote: post #24
bitmasher9 wrote: post #19

It’s really impressive how well Bluesky is performing. It really feels like a throwback to older social media platforms with its simplicity and lack of dark-patterns. I’m concerned that all the great work on the platform, protocol, etc won’t shine in the long term as they eventually need to find a revenue source.

Absolutely. The profit motive is the root of most evil. It is a shame that so many are trained to believe it is the only motive available.

Bluesky is a private for-profit company that has taken $37M in venture capital.

https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mik...

> That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company. This is not a protocol that’s truly decentralized. It’s another app. It’s another app that’s just kind of following in Twitter’s footsteps, but for a different part of the population.

> Everything we wanted around decentralization, everything we wanted in terms of an open source protocol, suddenly became a company with VCs and a board. That’s not what I wanted, that’s not what I intended to help create.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by krapp »

autobodie wrote: post #116
gkoberger wrote: post #31

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I completely agree with this... but without profit, people can't get paid, and they'll stop building. I do hate this incredibly need for growth, of course, but financial growth is necessary to pay people and give them raises and allow them to have upward mobility at the company. I hope Bluesky is able to find a model that works for them AND for consumers. (I do know it's an open protocol, so it'll live on without Blu…

> but without profit, people can't get paid, and they'll stop building I wholeheartledly disagree. People build things all the time for things other than profit. In fact, most of the greatest things ever built were a loss for those who built them. Dignity is the best motivator. Profit only supercedes dignity when dignity is not on offer.

Profit supercedes dignity when one needs to eat, because one cannot eat dignity.

Being able to spend a significant amount of time and effort on passion projects is a luxury most people can't afford.

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by dwedge »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #66

As a systems enthusiast I enjoy articles like this. It is really easy to get into the mindset of "this must be perfect". In the Blekko search engine back end we built an index that was 'eventually consistent' which allowed updates to the index to be propagated to the user facing index more quickly, at the expense that two users doing the exact same query would get slightly different results. If they kept doing those…

Similar to how Google images loads lower quality blurred thumbnails towards the bottom of the window at first so that the user thinks they loaded faster

Re: When imperfect systems are good: Bluesky's lossy timelines

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Post by BizarroLand »

dom96 wrote: post #28
xrisk wrote: post #5

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People want the old Twitter, and Bluesky is close to that. It also cosplays being decentralized to people who don’t look too closely.

What makes it not decentralised?

https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
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