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Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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Re: Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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Even if everyone agreed that the system was secure, and they absolutely don't, see for example https://web.archive.org/web/20210126201848mp_/https://palant... https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyzek/signal-new-pin-featur... I think we should all agree that outright lying to users on the very first line of their privacy policy page is totally unacceptable.

You cited this so I think this is what you mean: "Signal is designed to never collect or store any sensitive information." I interpret this, I think reasonably, to not include encrypted information. For that matter they collect (but probably don't store) encrypted messages. The question is, does PIN+SGX qualify as sufficiently encrypted? This line is a lie only if it does not. Sorry I skimmed those articles, I don't…

"I interpret this, I think reasonably, to not include encrypted information"

Why? Encrypted information is still sensitive information.

Re: Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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I'd love to have more of my socializing happening on Signal. Anyone got a good way to convince the non-paranoid to use it?

I usually tell people, "It's like iMessage, but it works on iPhone and Android," or "Hey, if you download Signal we can send high-quality photos between Android and iPhone."

Re: Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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I'm not going to run interference against all the comments you're writing on this thread, because I don't think Signal needs the help and it would make the thread ultra-tedious. But during the brief window where people were taking Wire seriously as a Signal alternative, I'd occasionally write a comment or tweet like:

Were you aware that Wire keeps a high-fidelity plaintext database of exactly who talks to who on their platform?

And people were reliably startled. But all that was happening was that ordinary users have no mental model for how a secure messenger is designed, and hadn't thought through how serverside contact lists that magically work no matter what device you enroll in the system were actually designed.

So here I'll just say: the stuff you're saying about Signal is pretty banal and uninteresting. The SGX+Enclave stuff is Signal's answer to something every other mainstream messenger does even worse than that. By all means, flunk them on their purity test!

Re: Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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It is also possible to communicate without using Meta services.

Good luck with that depending on where you live.

And when you live. The 20s-30s year old crowd I interact with seems to avoid, if not mock FB. I recognize it has its uses and benefits, though.

Re: Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

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Why would people give the most significant political events of this century so far "a rest"?

Because this thread is about a (potential) technological flaw in a communication app. It has nothing to do with the sitting US president.
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