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Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I always feel a bit weird when reading migraine threads on the internet, because mine seem so much milder, but it's still debilitating. I remember first noticing the migraines in grade when I was 16, but it took me years before realizing they were migraines. I thought that most people had pain like I did, and just powered through with some Advil/Tylenol. My migraines follow a very regular schedule. I wake up and just…

I think my biggest trigger is changing weather. I usually attribute this to changing light levels but I'm not sure.

I spent about 30 years getting migraines before I realized that wearing sunglasses helps my light sensitivity. It seems like that'd be a fairly intuitive thing to have tried, but somehow I never did.

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I've suffered from migraines all my life. It worsened as I've gotten older. One day long attacks turned into three day long attacks. Then turned into five day long attacks. I've taken various preventatives and abortives over the years to varying success. It runs in my family so I never thought to see a neurologist for them. A couple years ago I had a bad string of them and my medicine wasn't really touching it, so I…

Same pattern for me. About a year ago migraines escalated to a few times a week. Debilitating. I started searching for a solution and discovered this book [1]. It basically recommends a low carb or even a keto diet. After three weeks migrants reduced to once every three to four months, and mostly because I'm cheating on the diet. Life changing.

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I get migraines about 6 - 8 times a year, complete with visual aura and very occasionally speech aphasia. I tracked them in a spreadsheet for years so have a rough idea of triggers but it's proven fairly bad at predicting.

I've tried many drugs to combat them, but there is one thing that helps me short-circuit it 99% of the time is a high amount of caffeine. It's not perfect -- I liken it to side-stepping a train; you get missed by the train itself but still get thrown off by the wind and noise, still fall hard on the ground, still get bruised but not hurt as badly -- but it works well enough, so as soon as I get the visual aura, I slam back a strong coffee and know that it'll work. Why? No idea, perhaps the pressure in the brain's blood vessels are affected?

What I don't see as often discussed is the subtle changes in consciousness that accompany migraines.

For me, in the pre phase (12 hours or less before the true onset), the first sign that I'm heading towards one is a sudden immediate bias towards pessimism with a kind of resignedness too (which is quite unlike my normal states of mind). That's often my first clue. It's like the storm clouds are gathering on the horizon and all light and colour is drained from my life.

Then, the visual aura hits. Now I know what's happening with certainty and I hit my caffeine prophylactic. The caffeine stimulation combined with the first inklings of pain and knowledge that you're about to go "into the shit" gives you quite a fight/flight feeling. You're at a bit of a loss as to what to do, since you're amped up but there's nothing to do but wait it out.

Then once the aura fades, you feel quite strange. I'll typically go lie down at this stage. If the caffeine worked (which is like 99% likely for me), I feel in a kind of haze but I'm not in deep pain - just uncomfortable and mentally quite scattered, though I'm no longer pessimistic about the future. In fact, it's like time collapses, and I'm forced to be in the moment. It makes me feel sick to try to think about the past or future - it all feels like a huge burden to try to internalize those states of time. I just try to focus on my body and how I'm feeling. It's almost like a meditative state. I can't sleep due to the caffeine but I try to rest and keep my mind clear.

At some point I'll realize that I'm mostly through it, and can get up and move around and generally kind of resume my day. But it feels like a hangover of sorts. Everything is hazy. Thinking is difficult. Very sensitive to light and noise.

Then, surprisingly, the next day I'll feel mentally GREAT like my mind was cleaned.

Which brings me to the most interesting part of all this for me - the migraine has a lot of similarities to a psychedelic trip. There's a come-up that's distressing, a plateau where one is forced to be in-the-moment, a depletion afterwards, and the next day onwards a feeling that things are cleaner and better ordered than before, like your mind and spirit has been defragged.

Perhaps both the migraine and the psychedelics are stressors or some kind of release valve on your brain.

One wonders if there's increased brain plasticity post-migraine like with psychedelics.

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I used to get frequent migraine attacks - there were times when I would be down 3 days in a week, just unable to be productive. A lot of it was induced by stress. I then tried something novel - I took some LSD. I had an intense psychedelic trip, dug deep into my psyche, realized I was a giant ball of anxiety. The anxiety's root cause was ultimately a fear of mortality (around the same time, my dad was going through a…

Psychedelic treatment of migraines has nothing to do with the trip, however. Be careful of confusing your feelings with your actual health, they are not always related.

Psychedelic treatment of migraines has nothing to do with the trip, however.

What does this even mean, and where is your proof?

Be careful of confusing your feelings with your actual health, they are not always related

Why are you talking down to people, oh sage one?

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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My eyes were opened a few years ago when I was reading my mom’s brain mri report. She had cancer and was undergoing radiation treatment. The MRI noted lesions and said they could be due to cancer/radiation OR MIGRAINES! Holy moly! Migraines can cause brain damage!

Anything backing this up except that one report? I haven't heard of headaches or migraines causing permanent damage.

Might be a question of cause and effect. My neurologist theorized my migraines were triggered by microemboli leaking through a PFO (leak between left and right side of the heart: normally the lungs filter this stuff out)

PFO closed, migraines basically gone.

PFO can lead to stroke too for the same reason, and that's when it's usually closed, after a stroke. Not all migraines are caused by PFO. I went on blood thinners first for a year as a test.

Here's the long story version: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40895116

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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My migraines have been with me for ten years now and they have slowly evolved their symptoms and triggers. Started off more as typical migraines that happened every other day, though i had head issues everyday. it later evolved to neck pain, jaw pain, temple numbness, throbbing headaches, inability to think or process things. lots of cooccurring head symptoms include feeling of blood pulsing.

visited countless medical people, most offered no real solutions or relief. only consistent insight, temperature baths for my head reduced at least tthe superficial symptoms but not the cognitive symptoms, the superficial symptoms seemed to be aggravated by sleep. the cognitive symptoms correlated to hard processing and thinking, straining the brain. but the detriment to my life made it hard balancing work and responsibilities. worse is the symptoms are debilitating at times and invisible, good luck getting sympathy or understanding from other people with that being the case. im homeless cause its better to not have repsonsibilities and control how much i strain my brain than deal with the headaches daily and worse.

this whole ordeal makes you realize how limited the medical profession is.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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post #188

I used to get frequent migraine attacks - there were times when I would be down 3 days in a week, just unable to be productive. A lot of it was induced by stress. I then tried something novel - I took some LSD. I had an intense psychedelic trip, dug deep into my psyche, realized I was a giant ball of anxiety. The anxiety's root cause was ultimately a fear of mortality (around the same time, my dad was going through a…

This is where pseudoscience comes from. You dropped acid and think it helped you but you probably tried many different things before acid which "didn't work". In all likelihood the acid had nothing to do with it; it was just a coincidence that your symptoms improved. Also, it's common to have a lot of migraines for a period in your life and then stop having them. Or sometimes the reverse. I used to get very painful m…

This is also how many scientific discoveries start. An n=1 observation. Then more observations, then more validation. This is how we ended up getting ketamine for depression.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Psychedelic treatment of migraines has nothing to do with the trip, however. Be careful of confusing your feelings with your actual health, they are not always related.

Psychedelic treatment of migraines has nothing to do with the trip, however. What does this even mean, and where is your proof? Be careful of confusing your feelings with your actual health, they are not always related Why are you talking down to people, oh sage one?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triptan From a comment above.

And to respond to the latter, how many people are diagnosed every year with terminal cancer after a routine doctor’s appointment? I didn’t believe I needed an example.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I've suffered from migraines all my life. It worsened as I've gotten older. One day long attacks turned into three day long attacks. Then turned into five day long attacks. I've taken various preventatives and abortives over the years to varying success. It runs in my family so I never thought to see a neurologist for them. A couple years ago I had a bad string of them and my medicine wasn't really touching it, so I…

Same pattern for me. About a year ago migraines escalated to a few times a week. Debilitating. I started searching for a solution and discovered this book [1]. It basically recommends a low carb or even a keto diet. After three weeks migrants reduced to once every three to four months, and mostly because I'm cheating on the diet. Life changing.

Low carb/keto also had dramatic effects on frequency of migraines/headaches for myself. CPAP however, has been even more life changing in that regard for myself. From headaches 4-7 days of the week to fewer than 1 per week.

Some confounding variables on diet/weight loss/sleep quality. But I don't care, things are better and I'm happier for it.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sometimes get shimmering patterns which I think they call visual migraine or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma but thankfully mine don't go on to migraine proper. They often seem set of by a bright light outside the center of vision like I'm reading a book with sunlight coming in from 45 degrees.

I used to get these two or three times a year, but then I had heart surgery last summer and had five in the first day after I came round from the anesthetic, and two or three every day for weeks after that. They've now settled down to one every few days. Annoying, but they go away fairly quickly and just leave me feeling a bit tired and headachy for a few hours.

Same story for me, had a minor ablation procedure which triggered a bunch of migraines that later settled down.
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