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Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I used to get frequent migraine attacks - there were times when I would be down 3 days in a week, just unable to be productive. A lot of it was induced by stress. I then tried something novel - I took some LSD. I had an intense psychedelic trip, dug deep into my psyche, realized I was a giant ball of anxiety. The anxiety's root cause was ultimately a fear of mortality (around the same time, my dad was going through a…

As a counter-antidote: I know several people now who have experimented with psychedelics with the goal of addressing mental health issues who ended up significantly worse.

One of them got stuck with a nagging feeling that the world wasn’t quite real that lasted for a very long time, which resulted in a lot of anxiety.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I was diagnosed with migraine as a kid when I was 10. The doctor made me undergo a battery of tests including a contrast CT scan that consumed aj entire day, only to confirm at the end of the day that it was migraine. The migraines weren't even that debilitating but my mom was just being extra careful.

After that, I still got headaches at a good frequency and tried all sorts of specialists from orthos to opthalmologists, all of who checked their areas of the body and said I was perfectly normal. The one doc I didn't see was a gastro and this was a mistake.

Eventually I grew older and realised first that my headaches were always preceded by some sinus congestion and milk was a trigger of said congestion. So I switched to lactose free milk and that helped.

Eventually I realised that I was a chronic acid reflux patient, that a lot of small symptoms I had had over the years (a feeling of something stuck in the throat, congestion etc) were basically just the gut throwing up acid, or more accurately LPR/silent reflux. The reflux was the actual trigger of my headache. So my usual medication of Paracetamol, or worse, ibuprofen was actually making it worse in the medium/long term.

I switched my strategies to fixing the gut/acid reflux instead of treating the headache. The max I do nowadays is 325mg of paracetamol if I need to sleep and the pain doesn't let me. Ibuprofen is a nuclear option that I haven't resorted to in years.

The gut issue is still not resolved, I suppose years of damage to the oesophagus takes time to heal, so I'm still prone to reflux but I make do with a bland diet, avoiding triggers like milk and resorting to PPIs for short bursts during an attack. Oh and I also do the bending while swallowing trick that was on HN sometime back, which has helped immensely.

My headaches are mostly a thing of the past. Haven't had a debilitating one in years.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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Migraines being more than a headache has been the norm for at least 15-20 years. I remember hearing about how cluster headaches could be treated with psilocybin. I'm not able to access the rest of this article, but what's the new thing here? We already knew for years its not "just a headache"

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I used to get frequent migraine attacks - there were times when I would be down 3 days in a week, just unable to be productive. A lot of it was induced by stress. I then tried something novel - I took some LSD. I had an intense psychedelic trip, dug deep into my psyche, realized I was a giant ball of anxiety. The anxiety's root cause was ultimately a fear of mortality (around the same time, my dad was going through a…

As a counter-antidote: I know several people now who have experimented with psychedelics with the goal of addressing mental health issues who ended up significantly worse. One of them got stuck with a nagging feeling that the world wasn’t quite real that lasted for a very long time, which resulted in a lot of anxiety.

Yup - they can also give you migraines (or worse) if you introduce bugs into the "software", just as I was able to debug my problems away.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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Any other migraineurs share what I call "Silver Bullet Fatigue" at trying new treatments? I've been at this for six decades with no magic solution for my own migraine problems, and I've lost count of all the neurological investigations, meds, scans, treatments, and helpful or sometimes utterly silly suggestions that have come up short over the years. Some have come close but had undesireable side effects, others made…

No. I read a migraine book which boiled down to once you figure it out, your migraines change. Meds stop working, life changes, stress, etc. I routinely get month long migraines over the years. I’ve had all the scans, Mayo Clinic visits, eyes checked, and follow-ups.

They say it’s helpful to log things or journal but I don’t feel like it much with a migraine and blurred/double vision.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I got my first migraine in my early teens. I was over at a friend's house and we were playing in the basement on a summer day, then went outside where the sun reflected off a window into my eyes. It would start with a shimmering pattern obstructing my vision where the bright light was, which would grow into a c shape and get bigger until it surrounded my vision and then faded away. About 15 min after the shimmering p…

Yep, I realized mine were caused by looking out the window while I brushed my teeth in the morning. One day it was really bright outside and really dark inside and the migraine started almost immediately. More than a year and I keep the blinds drawn while I'm in the bathroom in the morning and not a single migraine!

This is interesting. I frequently had them triggered by riding BART in the late afternoons in the winter, sun beating in through the dirty windows. Going through the tube (dark) and emerging in Oakland (raised track, clear view of the sky on both sides) had a double-digit % chance of giving me a migraine if my eyes were open at one point.

I can get them triggered by riding in a car in similar conditions, too, especially if the windows aren't squeaky clean. I frequently wonder why that is, something about the remaining spectrum of visible light when the windows are dirty?

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I sometimes get shimmering patterns which I think they call visual migraine or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma but thankfully mine don't go on to migraine proper. They often seem set of by a bright light outside the center of vision like I'm reading a book with sunlight coming in from 45 degrees.

Exactly the same trigger here. I had one just the other day at the pub. Sitting outside, under shade, but to my left was a bright spot. It’s weird how I can sense it arriving ... something about the quality of my vision subtly changes, and there it is. Fortunately for me it isn’t accompanied by a headache. It’s just really unsettling. At least now I’ve learned to recognise them and I just try to chill out while it do…

For whatever it’s worth, too much caffeine and dehydration does this to me. Chugging about 48 oz of water and throwing on a face mask for 30-60 minutes usually clears it up. If I do “nothing” it takes significantly longer to clear up.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I used to get frequent migraine attacks - there were times when I would be down 3 days in a week, just unable to be productive. A lot of it was induced by stress. I then tried something novel - I took some LSD. I had an intense psychedelic trip, dug deep into my psyche, realized I was a giant ball of anxiety. The anxiety's root cause was ultimately a fear of mortality (around the same time, my dad was going through a…

As a counter-antidote: I know several people now who have experimented with psychedelics with the goal of addressing mental health issues who ended up significantly worse. One of them got stuck with a nagging feeling that the world wasn’t quite real that lasted for a very long time, which resulted in a lot of anxiety.

Depersonalization and derealization are truly awful. Having experienced them for non-psychedelic reasons, it's almost indescribable.

Sometimes people say "seeing events in third person". My experience was that my consciousness and actions were completely disconnected from my observations of reality. Like, I questioned whether I had any influence at all over my existence. Basic, predictable events were suddenly uncertain and terrifying. It left me with no mental capacity to do anything but uneasily exist.

With treatment, it goes away gradually over months. I never want to go back there.

Re: Migraine is more than a headache – a rethink offers hope

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I got my first migraine in my early teens. I was over at a friend's house and we were playing in the basement on a summer day, then went outside where the sun reflected off a window into my eyes. It would start with a shimmering pattern obstructing my vision where the bright light was, which would grow into a c shape and get bigger until it surrounded my vision and then faded away. About 15 min after the shimmering p…

Same! My understanding of migraines is that it's something to do with blood pressure in your head. My hypothesis is that the visual disturbances are your blood vessels dilating and pressing against your retina. Then I think it can cause kind of a runaway feedback loop of some sort that causes the blood pressure to increase throughout your head, causing pain.

Thinking about it now, I wonder if the light trigger could be the bright light causing minor damage to your retina, potentially triggering an inflammation/repair response. The fact that it happens when going from dark to light suddenly, also makes sense, since your pupil is at its most dilated when in the dark, meaning the most of your retina is exposed/vulnerable. That might also explain why it always starts in the periphery; because the edges of your retina are likely less often exposed to light and potentially more delicate -- but would be exposed if you see bright lights while your pupils are fully dilated.

For me, I've found it's also closely related to irregular food or sleep. And I find eating something with sugar or drinking some water can reduce the likelihood of the visual disturbances becoming a full-on migraine. My hypothesis is that these things alter your blood chemistry/physics enough to interfere with the runaway feedback loop that results in increasing blood pressure. I imagine dunking your head in cold water likewise works because it breaks the runaway process.

But this is all speculation.

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