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How to be a growth hacker

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Re: How to be a growth hacker

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Just to confirm, you're looking for marketers with basic programming chops?

We've historically had waaay more engineers than marketers on twitter's growth team. We look at growth less as marketing and more about optimizing (through ux, design, experiment, machine-learning, analytics, etc) all of our possible distribution channels with respect to a set of core metrics. We lean towards teaching good generalist programmers how to do "growth," which actually doesn't feel much like marketing in d…

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Re: How to be a growth hacker

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The growth hacker has existed since the dawn of time. It is called being a top sales person, and good sales people are worth twice their weight in gold. Someone who can sell and can program is not a growth hacker, but a sales engineer. Think about it...

Sales and marketing aren't the same. This is not sales. A growth hacker is a marketing engineer, and I don't think that role has been prevalent until recently. Counterexamples are welcome.

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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Here at GraphMuse (invite engine for Facebook apps), we hadn't heard of a "Growth Engineer" until we really looked into some of the people interested in our product. Turns out that Growth Engineers are actually respected "higher-ups." You said it yourself too. That said, I think few people are familiar with this job title outside of SV. Was it Facebook who started this trend? NOTE: I'd increase the line spacing on yo…

Yes it was Facebook who started the trend as early days of the Facebook platform trained many of the best growth hackers in the Valley. 'Dan Yue' at Playdom, 'Joe Greenstein' at Flixster, and 'David King' at (Lil) Green Patch were a few Facebook pioneers. But, it was 'Sean Ellis' (Eventbrite, Dropbox, Xobni, Catchfree) who Originally coined the term. That's true hardly a few people are familiar with this job title ou…

I'd love to contact some of these people as "Growth" is the focus of what I'm working on. Do you know any of these guys you're referencing?

Can I shoot you an email? Mine is tony at graphmuse.com

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to confirm, you're looking for marketers with basic programming chops?

We've historically had waaay more engineers than marketers on twitter's growth team. We look at growth less as marketing and more about optimizing (through ux, design, experiment, machine-learning, analytics, etc) all of our possible distribution channels with respect to a set of core metrics. We lean towards teaching good generalist programmers how to do "growth," which actually doesn't feel much like marketing in d…

I am yet to graduate as an engineer but I am damm good as a leader and passionate about growth hacking this is what defines me.

I am learning rails, javascript these days and will be glad to get associated.

That was my first ever submission to the Hacker News. Sorry i didn't get, what is that email??

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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I am a little confused by the wording of this. I usually think of a growth hacker as somebody who helps scale an app, like an Instagram engineer for instance. Is anybody else confused by the naming?

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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"Software is eating everything" even traditional employee roles in organizations. People who can automate will always win, because they can do more in less time.

I remember once when I was consulting, I was on the bench for a few days and the marketing group contacted me to help aggregate and validate multiple lead lists. They had been working on it for days, copy/pasting record after record from multiple excel sheets into one big master sheet. They asked if I could help.

I wrote some algorithms that matched records on several criteria and put them into one big list. It took me a couple hours and I was done. Emailed them later.

The marketing group emailed me back -- ecstatic! I saved them so much time, they sent me all these promotional gifts meant to give to clients and potential customers. A thermos I use to this day full of starbucks bucks that I shared with my friends. I was king for a day.

These kinds of problems exist all over corporate america and now that programmers have automated many of their daily tasks and accelerated them where they haven't, they have more time to help more people within the organizations that employ them. Their new tasks show their immense power to people who normally think software is just something to get in the way of their daily tasks, slowing them down, making life worse. Much software out there is awful to use and built by engineers of the old days who were overworked, underpaid relative to their contribution, and perhaps angry and antagonistic toward coworkers.

There's a new breed out there and we are taking over! :)

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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Yes it was Facebook who started the trend as early days of the Facebook platform trained many of the best growth hackers in the Valley. 'Dan Yue' at Playdom, 'Joe Greenstein' at Flixster, and 'David King' at (Lil) Green Patch were a few Facebook pioneers. But, it was 'Sean Ellis' (Eventbrite, Dropbox, Xobni, Catchfree) who Originally coined the term. That's true hardly a few people are familiar with this job title ou…

I'd love to contact some of these people as "Growth" is the focus of what I'm working on. Do you know any of these guys you're referencing? Can I shoot you an email? Mine is tony at graphmuse.com

Sure you can. Shoot me an email on akshay@sugardoctor.in

I am presently working for this company in reinventing their business model for the scaling/ growing up of operation.

And yeah the guys I'm referencing, neither I know any of them nor they know me.

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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While this post is very informative, it has the potential to be quite dangerous. This type of marketing is like gasoline - it can take a small fire and make it huge. You almost want to conclude that 99% of the fire was due to the gasoline, but that isn't the case. Most of the critical work is getting the initial fire. Once it starts burning, you 'earn' the ability to add gasoline and see a big effect.

Long story short - don't try to growth hack until your product is ready. Every shining example of engineered marketing begins with a product that already had engaged users.

Re: How to be a growth hacker

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The last thing the tech world needs is people walking around calling themselves "growth hackers".

Actually, the last thing the tech world needs is stuff like this, from the article:

If a startup is pre-product/market fit, growth hackers can make sure virality is embedded at the core of a product. After product/market fit, they can help run up the score on what’s already working.

Stop making up "markets" and "niches", then making crappy products to try and be "viral" in these areas, then calling yourself a "growth hacker" or something as ridiculous and valueless.

Build something because you love it, not because a "growth hacker" determined that it was a "pre-market fit".

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