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Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by opan »

tombert wrote: post #104
opan wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gentoo can do systemd or OpenRC, but I think systemd is default. I would recommend Guix System if you don't want systemd, as it uses GNU Shepherd instead.

I'd be mostly concerned with package selection with Guix System. Don't you have to go out of your way to install anything proprietary on there? Also doesn't it use a Linux kernel without any blobs? I would think that drivers could be an issue.

Yes, you're correct on both counts. You can add non-default channels and get a different kernel if you so desire. Personally I have stuck to the defaults.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by lproven »

Tomte wrote: post #29
jeffbee wrote: post #19

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Yeah but do they say "ess oo ess ee" or "suess"?

Soo-seh. Like the women‘s name.

Er... there is no woman's name that sounds like that.

In English, it's "SOO-zuh" or "SOO-se" if the speaker isn't native and doesn't turn final vowel sounds into schwa like most natives tend to.

In German, it's "ZOO-ze"

/ˈsuːzə/

It is not Susie, or Suzy, or Sooz, or anything like that, and that pronunciation tends to annoy the company. Souce: me; I worked there for 4 years. The company has Youtube videos on how to pronounce it, and even a song making fun of people getting it wrong.

Think of the American march composer John Philip Sousa. Like that. As in the musical instrument the sousaphone.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by lproven »

dizhn wrote: post #78
mdip wrote: post #7

I've been a user of openSUSE since "openSUSE", nearly. It's my daily driver, today. I want to say I was playing with Mandrake, Red Hat and a little Gentoo at the time. I started using it regularly around 2010ish - I was working at a Windows shop and had a pretty elaborate home lab with Windows servers and domain controllers so I could do things at home "before trying that on corporate." I remember the deciding factor…

No snapper, no rollbacks without btrfs I'm afraid.

I believe that it works with LVM snapshots as well, but then you've traded the problem of Btrfs for the problem of LVM.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by lproven »

mdip wrote: post #7

I've been a user of openSUSE since "openSUSE", nearly. It's my daily driver, today. I want to say I was playing with Mandrake, Red Hat and a little Gentoo at the time. I started using it regularly around 2010ish - I was working at a Windows shop and had a pretty elaborate home lab with Windows servers and domain controllers so I could do things at home "before trying that on corporate." I remember the deciding factor…

> it seems to excel -- mostly -- at teaching me about filesystem recovery.

100% this.

I worked for SUSE for 4 years and I like the distro, but I unhappily and reluctantly got used to the distro destroying its own root partition a couple of times a year.

In the end I reinstalled on plain old ext4, and then it became rock solid, but you lose snapper and the rollback functionality, and they are handy.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by Tomte »

lproven wrote: post #122
Tomte wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soo-seh. Like the women‘s name.

Er... there is no woman's name that sounds like that. In English, it's "SOO-zuh" or "SOO-se" if the speaker isn't native and doesn't turn final vowel sounds into schwa like most natives tend to. In German, it's "ZOO-ze" /ˈsuːzə/ It is not Susie, or Suzy, or Sooz, or anything like that, and that pronunciation tends to annoy the company. Souce: me; I worked there for 4 years. The company has Youtube videos on how to pr…

I‘m German, I know the pronunciation, thank you very much!

And we Germans do turn the latter syllable into a schwa.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by bmwiedemann »

patwolf wrote: post #82

I was always blown away by the fact that YaST could run either as a GTK app or a CLI/ncurses tool. The same config was available in both. Back when I was using SuSE regularly, I was developing a pluggable web-based admin tool. I always wanted to look at the way YaST was written to see if I could do something similar for creating a web UI, but my project got sidelined before I got very far.

This GUI abstraction can be found in https://github.com/libyui/libyui and usage examples in https://github.com/yast/

It has backends for ncurses, gtk and qt with some theming support.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by dizhn »

lproven wrote: post #123
dizhn wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No snapper, no rollbacks without btrfs I'm afraid.

I believe that it works with LVM snapshots as well, but then you've traded the problem of Btrfs for the problem of LVM.

I didn't know snapper supported LVM. That is nice. OpenSUSE's installer probably doesn't support it with its snapper setup though. Default is / btrfs and allowing snapshots if the disk is big enough. (More than 30gb?)

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

lproven wrote: post #123
dizhn wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No snapper, no rollbacks without btrfs I'm afraid.

I believe that it works with LVM snapshots as well, but then you've traded the problem of Btrfs for the problem of LVM.

Yo! Remember me talking about maybe having to 'eat chalk' regarding Btrfs enthusiasm, maybe a few months ago? :-)

Still working without a hitch, got some system updates meanwhile, was full to bursting several times meanwhile (only 1GB left! ALLARRM!), and so on.

I'm still wondering about why I'd need all that snapshotting shit, because it just works.

Casheeex!

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by lproven »

Tomte wrote: post #125
lproven wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er... there is no woman's name that sounds like that. In English, it's "SOO-zuh" or "SOO-se" if the speaker isn't native and doesn't turn final vowel sounds into schwa like most natives tend to. In German, it's "ZOO-ze" /ˈsuːzə/ It is not Susie, or Suzy, or Sooz, or anything like that, and that pronunciation tends to annoy the company. Souce: me; I worked there for 4 years. The company has Youtube videos on how to pr…

I‘m German, I know the pronunciation, thank you very much! And we Germans do turn the latter syllable into a schwa.

:-D

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by lproven »

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #128
lproven wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that it works with LVM snapshots as well, but then you've traded the problem of Btrfs for the problem of LVM.

Yo! Remember me talking about maybe having to 'eat chalk' regarding Btrfs enthusiasm, maybe a few months ago? :-) Still working without a hitch, got some system updates meanwhile, was full to bursting several times meanwhile (only 1GB left! ALLARRM!), and so on. I'm still wondering about why I'd need all that snapshotting shit, because it just works. Casheeex!

I hope it continues to work for you for years to come. :-)
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