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iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Something is off about this story. A brief glance in the iBookstore shows tons of books on Amazon and Amazon products, including books on how to sell your work via Amazon. We're talking entire books who's sole purpose is to promote or support the use of Amazon. Clearly Apple has no problem with those.

s/who's/whose/

Signed, the Homophone Police.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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post #73

Something is off about this story. A brief glance in the iBookstore shows tons of books on Amazon and Amazon products, including books on how to sell your work via Amazon. We're talking entire books who's sole purpose is to promote or support the use of Amazon. Clearly Apple has no problem with those.

Are those books from major publishers? She's going the self-pub route so Apple may not be willing to play games with multi-national publishing companies but will screw over indies. If not, I don't know, but having followed her news letter I would be more than a little surprised if she were fudging things here, it gives her no real benefit.

People will "fudge" things, as you say, for pride or sympathy just as much as they will for any concrete benefit.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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post #73

Something is off about this story. A brief glance in the iBookstore shows tons of books on Amazon and Amazon products, including books on how to sell your work via Amazon. We're talking entire books who's sole purpose is to promote or support the use of Amazon. Clearly Apple has no problem with those.

Apple's only consistent quality is that it is inconsistent about its censorship.

Thus, it is not only possible but likely for both the linked story and an iBookStore full of Amazon-related books to co-exist.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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One and a half years ago I did the page layout for a book being produced by a team-specific sports blog. They chose to publish the book using CreateSpace, which is owned by Amazon. It was my responsibility to make certain we were in compliance with the submission requirements. I read through them and took notes of all the relevant parts. When we submitted the book for review, it was rejected because we had quoted som…

It could be Apple, Amazon, a public library, a restaurant. [...] Personally, I'd like all of these organizations to be upfront with their policies, but they usually don't take this approach. Librarians do make more of an effort to be conscientious and transparent. There is considerable emphasis on ethics and the importance of an unrestricted public discourse in library-science degrees, and there is a general ethos th…

`library-related ethics` call it freedom of press, no one should be able to block literature.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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This is height of hypocrisy since Apple apparently uses Amazon S3 in their iMessage app, according to an earlier HN post that links here : http://imgur.com/fwXX5 "You can't mention Amazon, but we can use it."

I'm not defending Apple but your point is completely irrelevant. They don't want products in their store to mention a competitor. That has nothing to do with them using a service which they don't have a competitor for.

Your comment does't make sense... Amazon is a competitor to Apple in the realm of selling eBooks.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely not. This is where the line is drawn. I've grown to accept Apple's App Store policies for the sake of keeping app quality high. However, when it comes to distributing content that people actually use to learn new things and enrich their lives, there is absolutely no room for this type of policy. To anyone who is selling their books via Apple: GTFO right now.

"This is where the line is drawn." Really? I mean, yes this is clearly terrible, but if you're surprised by Apple doing this then you haven't been paying much attention the past few years. I don't begrudge people who choose to use Apple products, they certainly have their charms, but I do get slightly annoyed when they are suddenly offended when Apple does something like this because post-App Store Apple pulls crap l…

  > pulls crap like this all the time.
Please tell. There are hundreds of thousands apps in App Store, but of course only those who got rejected matter, right?

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be Apple, Amazon, a public library, a restaurant. [...] Personally, I'd like all of these organizations to be upfront with their policies, but they usually don't take this approach. Librarians do make more of an effort to be conscientious and transparent. There is considerable emphasis on ethics and the importance of an unrestricted public discourse in library-science degrees, and there is a general ethos th…

`library-related ethics` call it freedom of press, no one should be able to block literature.

A library isn't a press, just for a start. They have limited space and therefore have no choice but be selective about what they carry. The point is they strive to be fair and balanced in their selection process.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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For a long time people would say, "I wish Google had Apple's design sense." I long for the day when most start saying, "I wish Apple had Google's self-confidence."

I really don't think self confidence is a problem for Apple. They do things no other company would dream of, seemingly without a second thought.
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