Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
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Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#2The result of this seems like it would be: "Congrats, we sold you out."
Administration officials had all sorts of condescending "they did a good job defending themselves but ... " quotes before the election.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#3These aren’t peace talks then, they’re talks on how to divide up the spoils.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#4These aren’t peace talks then, they’re talks on how to divide up the spoils.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#5These aren’t peace talks then, they’re talks on how to divide up the spoils.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
I think if you're fighting off a straight up invasion you take the help you can get. That's it.
This isn't your typical proxy war situation where US and Russia just pick sides in an internal conflict. This was something else.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#6These aren’t peace talks then, they’re talks on how to divide up the spoils.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
I'm unclear; what is the point you're trying to make here if not "welp who cares"?
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
I'm unclear; what is the point you're trying to make here if not "welp who cares"?
> "welp who cares"
Yes, that is my point, that in the end, the profiteers and instigators don't care.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
I think if you're fighting off a straight up invasion you take the help you can get. That's it. This isn't your typical proxy war situation where US and Russia just pick sides in an internal conflict. This was something else.
$9 trillion in minerals
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know why people are pretending to be surprised. When the Soviet Union or Uncle Sams props your army up to fight the other you were in for a bad time. There are like books written about events like these.
I think if you're fighting off a straight up invasion you take the help you can get. That's it. This isn't your typical proxy war situation where US and Russia just pick sides in an internal conflict. This was something else.
You were told this was something else, and it resonated better because the people involved were culturally close to Europeans. But in reality was the messaging all that different from "Operation Iraqi Freedom"? Both were fights for automotive power sources dressed up as a liberation movement.
Re: Ukraine not invited to US-Russia peace talks, source tells BBC
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think if you're fighting off a straight up invasion you take the help you can get. That's it. This isn't your typical proxy war situation where US and Russia just pick sides in an internal conflict. This was something else.
You were told this was something else, and it resonated better because the people involved were culturally close to Europeans. But in reality was the messaging all that different from "Operation Iraqi Freedom"? Both were fights for automotive power sources dressed up as a liberation movement.
I don't know what any of that means. What is "both fights" what are "automotive power sources"?