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Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by shmerl »

jrm4 wrote: post #94

Will continue to say it, this piece of software that could be a mainstream huge deal, a straight-up Adobe killer, will never do this unless it changes its name. I've mostly given up hope on this, but it's still wild that people who work on the software just seem to very stubbornly not understand this. Whether you want to blame it on ableism, or perhaps simply "you should name your software after something/someone ski…

It's not about the name it's about pace of development. It's extremely slow since they don't see a need for more backing like let's say Blender.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by kernal »

jenscow wrote: post #75
isodev wrote: post #51

It’s time for a new name. “gimp” may be semantically correct but it hardly prepares one for a “friendly and powerful graphics editing tool”.

What about "Professional Image Manipulation Program"? Digital Image Correction Kit Touch-up & Image Transformation Studio

Extraneous and unnecessary words for the sake of satisfying an acronym. Let’s just call it Image Editor or IE for short.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by CharlesW »

veggieroll wrote: post #96
jrm4 wrote: post #94

Will continue to say it, this piece of software that could be a mainstream huge deal, a straight-up Adobe killer, will never do this unless it changes its name. I've mostly given up hope on this, but it's still wild that people who work on the software just seem to very stubbornly not understand this. Whether you want to blame it on ableism, or perhaps simply "you should name your software after something/someone ski…

That's probably true. But offending people with prudish attitudes or without a sense of humor is a pretty common old-school hacker goal. It serves a valuable community function by protecting the community from corporate interests, non-technical bike-shedding, and overload by "bug" reports that are actually just the user not being technical enough to use the tool properly. Edit: Also FWIW, I've had no problem introduc…

> But offending people with prudish attitudes or without a sense of humor…

Some folks who are neither prudish or humorless want to see the project and its contributors succeed to the degree that alternatives like Photopea has, or as Blender has in the 3D space. The project will continue to limp along until the name is changed to something without negative connotations in English-speaking populations.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

#104

Post by enriquto »

jrm4 wrote: post #94

Will continue to say it, this piece of software that could be a mainstream huge deal, a straight-up Adobe killer, will never do this unless it changes its name. I've mostly given up hope on this, but it's still wild that people who work on the software just seem to very stubbornly not understand this. Whether you want to blame it on ableism, or perhaps simply "you should name your software after something/someone ski…

> his piece of software (...) will never do this unless it changes its name.

Why?

Honestly, why?

As a non-native English speaker (like the vast majority of people in this planet), the word "gimp" to me means "the free software image processing program". If I search google, duckduckgo, bing, whatever, the entire first page of results refers to that very program. Digging deeper, I start to find some references to the Pulp Fiction movie, where a minor character is named like that. I remember that character, but in my language it was called by a different name. Is that all?

Is there any other meaning to this word? If so, it must be so obscure as to be completely irrelevant.

Please, take into account that most English speakers are not native speakers, and many words will have a different meaning to us. English as a lingua franca may be comfortable to native speakers, but it also means that it's no longer yours.

The name of the program does not seem to be a serious issue for its adoption. Now, if you want to talk about its user interface... I don't think it does, either (but I may be open to discussion). I have taught my kids to do simple image processing tasks in gimp: copy-pasting parts of an image into another, removing some stuff, blurring, simple layer operations, etc. Anyhow, they got it in a few minutes. Important to say: they are not at all tech-savvy (to my dismay! but this is another story). If they use adobe or krita they will surely find it slightly confusing at the beginning, but no big deal either. Just like a regular person moving from photoshop to gimp.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by hn8726 »

kernal wrote: post #100
idle_zealot wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is posted every time this software comes up here. I don't know where you people are from, but in my dialect (Eastern US, Gen Z) "gimp" is just not a particularly rude word. It's used primarily as a verb, meaning "to reduce in efficacy, to hamper." Obviously it has it's noun definition too, bit if you think that has anything to do with the lack of adoption of this software you're kidding yourself, you gits.

Let’s try a scientific experiment. Go to a bar and start calling people GIMP’s and analyze the reactions it receives.

You could make the same argument about GNOME

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by aezart »

I tried 3.0 RC2 the other day and discovered that the new UI is much less space efficient. It imported my panel layout from 2.10 (which I spent a long time getting just right), and I had to completely rearrange it to get it to fit on a 1080px tall monitor. Very frustrating.

Also, it doesn't detect my drawing tablet.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by [deleted] »

CharlesW wrote: post #103
veggieroll wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's probably true. But offending people with prudish attitudes or without a sense of humor is a pretty common old-school hacker goal. It serves a valuable community function by protecting the community from corporate interests, non-technical bike-shedding, and overload by "bug" reports that are actually just the user not being technical enough to use the tool properly. Edit: Also FWIW, I've had no problem introduc…

> But offending people with prudish attitudes or without a sense of humor… Some folks who are neither prudish or humorless want to see the project and its contributors succeed to the degree that alternatives like Photopea has, or as Blender has in the 3D space. The project will continue to limp along until the name is changed to something without negative connotations in English-speaking populations.

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