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Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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If you want North Korean food, but not run by the North Korean government with the weird slavery shit, there's numerous Korean restaurants north of North Korea in Yanbian, Jilin/Changchun, etc. Just regular restaurants, mostly run by Chinese that are ethnically Korean.

Easier to just go to any of them in an actual Korea in Seoul.

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Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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- "We heard that the girls stay in the Hotel (yes, upstairs) and they are seldom allowed out and that they do not get paid or if they do, the amount is for pocket money as everything from food and lodging to basic necessities are provided by the State." In more straightforward language: these are slaves. [late edit]: Here's more about how these slave women are treated: - "In contrast, he said the high achievers are r…

> We found out that the girls are all from elite North Korean families. The one that served us shared politely that she has worked at this restaurant for one and the half years and all of them are University graduates who consider this their duty and only opportunity to work and serve their country by sharing their culture and food. I imagine it is worse for the people who aren't children of elite families, nor able…

Unfortunately, this is an extremely common way of thinking. It's one of the reasons flinging dirt in politics is so effective I think.

I wonder if there is any connection with this way of thinking and the many David vs Goliath style stories we get as a kid. Maybe we need more stories for children where every character is bad, or every character is good.

There can still be conflict to provide an interesting story between two good parties, or between two bad parties.

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you special in this regard?

Probably could put you on all kinds of security risk lists.

I would rather stay away from russian or maybe chinese restaurants if westerner, those are actual enemies. Or just dont care, dont get seduced by random women out of your league and you will be fine.

And if you mean US security risk lists well thats on US current paranoia coming from hard attempts of current government to make whole world hate US, nothing rest of the world cares much.

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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Not sure how comfortable id be ordering from one of these resturaunts as an American.

Why are you special in this regard?

Since NK is under sanctions by the US, I supposed you wouldn't want to give them any money for goods or services. It could blow back

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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- "We heard that the girls stay in the Hotel (yes, upstairs) and they are seldom allowed out and that they do not get paid or if they do, the amount is for pocket money as everything from food and lodging to basic necessities are provided by the State." In more straightforward language: these are slaves. [late edit]: Here's more about how these slave women are treated: - "In contrast, he said the high achievers are r…

> We found out that the girls are all from elite North Korean families. The one that served us shared politely that she has worked at this restaurant for one and the half years and all of them are University graduates who consider this their duty and only opportunity to work and serve their country by sharing their culture and food. I imagine it is worse for the people who aren't children of elite families, nor able…

Correct, do you want your child to be starving, cold, and without electricity or do you want them to at least be a restaurant slave?

I’m sure the girls can’t escape or their families will be killed.

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you special in this regard?

Since NK is under sanctions by the US, I supposed you wouldn't want to give them any money for goods or services. It could blow back

I've had Pyongyang soju when it was sold in the US around a decade or so ago, it was ok: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/north-korean-alcohol-imported...

Bought it as a curiosity since I had never seen anything sold from DPRK before and it was just randomly at a liquor store. I guess the importer ended up getting arrested under FARA and you can't buy it anymore.

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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> We found out that the girls are all from elite North Korean families. The one that served us shared politely that she has worked at this restaurant for one and the half years and all of them are University graduates who consider this their duty and only opportunity to work and serve their country by sharing their culture and food. I imagine it is worse for the people who aren't children of elite families, nor able…

Unfortunately, this is an extremely common way of thinking. It's one of the reasons flinging dirt in politics is so effective I think. I wonder if there is any connection with this way of thinking and the many David vs Goliath style stories we get as a kid. Maybe we need more stories for children where every character is bad, or every character is good. There can still be conflict to provide an interesting story betw…

I liked Princess Mononoke a lot as a kid because of the ambiguity in most of the characters. No one was truly evil, or truly good in their actions.

I definitely noticed it was different than most media at the time because of that.

Re: Dinner at a North Korean Restaurant in Shanghai (2016)

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, this is an extremely common way of thinking. It's one of the reasons flinging dirt in politics is so effective I think. I wonder if there is any connection with this way of thinking and the many David vs Goliath style stories we get as a kid. Maybe we need more stories for children where every character is bad, or every character is good. There can still be conflict to provide an interesting story betw…

I liked Princess Mononoke a lot as a kid because of the ambiguity in most of the characters. No one was truly evil, or truly good in their actions. I definitely noticed it was different than most media at the time because of that.

I read their comment and immediately thought of the same movie. That story did moral shades of gray very well. I do wish there was more content like that.
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