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US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

i don't see how this is (technically) related to the twitter layoffs - and even less how it could be "literally" given that the twitter layoffs where about LAYOFFS and this news item is about reHIRING ... or are you maybe a little challenged with language and what you actually want to say is that in both cases Elon Musk is involved?

https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/25/96439

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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H1B

All key personnel were immigrants? Why did the others come back? Also, since the H1B were key to operations and therefore smart, couldn't at least some of them have found a new employer? 61% of the H1B population switched jobs that year, so why did all key H1B come back? I think key personnel came back because they wanted to. It's the simplest explanation.

With h1b i think you have 60 days to find someone else to sponsor you or you have to leave the country. 60 days is no time at all to find and start a new job. Even if you’re smart.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Mainstream media have massively better truth record then non mainstream ones. Especially last years.

That may be true if all non-stream media includes random Facebook accounts. But it’s kind of an irrelevant point when the mainstream media got important things dead wrong. And not only dead wrong but also so poorly backed up I hesitate to even call them “journalists”. More like “gossip columnists”.

Meh. All those who you call "journalists" and "gossip columnists" in mainstream media have better truth record then alternative media conservatives created for themselves. That is all there is to it. I now believe that all those accusations of mainstream media being liars were just so that you can lie more and more brazenly.

For all the minor flaws they had, they were massively better then the replacement. The replacement just had an ideological goal that required them to destroy truth.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Maybe “reactionary” or “accelerationist” is the word you want? Please let’s not popularize the label “progressive right,” our political labels are already a mess in the US but that is just too much.

I don't have a strong opinion here, but I am curious. What don't you like about the term progressive right?

Because it's contradictory. By definition, the Left is progressive -- they want society to progress and see a future where the problems of the past and present are solved by moving forward. The Right is regressive by definition -- they believe that modern society is inferior to some past "Golden Age" that needs to be returned to to make things great again -- the 1950s, the 19th century, or even the 18th century.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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The "federal budget" is something people often mention, but it's quite misleading. At least in terms of what we think of. The reason is that the overwhelming majority of the budget is spent automatically - pensions, medicare, social security, and all of these expenses are unavoidable and in a mandatory expenses category. The remainder of the budget, including military, is considered discretionary. That discretionary…

It's important to note though that the goal is not to reduce debt. The goal is to cut taxes (largely for the rich). I mean if debt was an issue why vote for the guy who has increased the national debt by the most in history and whose spending plans were going to increase the debt by almost twice of his opponent? https://www.investopedia.com/democrats-vs-republicans-who-ha...

The person who wrote that article is remarkably ignorant of essentially all topics that she covered to the point I'd consider that lower quality than an average internet shitpost. I don't know where to start so I'll just bullet point things in no particular order:

- The US parties almost entirely ideologically swapped sometime in the 19th century. Some claim it happened with FDR in the 30s, others claim it didn't "really" happen until LBJ in the 60s. Everybody acknowledges it happened. What a "Democrat" did in 1913 is irrelevant.

- Congress dictates budgets, not the President. The President has veto power (which can be overruled by Congress), but nothing more.

- The modern US economic system enabling us to go arbitrarily far into debt only began in 1971, when we defaulted on our obligations under Bretton Woods.

- The total deficit under Trump was $5.6 trillion, under Biden it was ~7.6 trillion [1]. I assume the author was looking at delta debt and then 'inflation adjusting' it... ugh.

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That's just the basic historic/factual backing. The "stats" are even worse, but enough is enough. In any case, the issue is not what happened in 1913 or even Trump's first term, but what is happening now. Trump's first term he promised to do what he's doing now but instead just mostly carried on the military machine (at least without starting any news wars, which was nice - though he was trying his hardest with Iran) and filled his entire cabinet with political establishment types who did their thing.

Trump 2.0 seems to have genuinely gained some sort of messianic delusions, probably from the attempted assassinations, and is actually doing what he said he would do before. And those current actions are what is really changing the game like nothing that's happened in decades.

[1] - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD/

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

#187

This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

No agency is going to admit to fraud, which is not totally different than paying employees they didn't need. I'm also not a fan of the fire and rehire method, either. It does feel like more time should have been spent, from an outside agency, watching and deciding. What they're doing now is an old trick, and I'm surprised more people don't tell them to screw off.

> No agency is going to admit to fraud

Which is why Congress employs an army of auditors, who audit and report their findings to them.

The difference is, they are largely non-partisan appointments, who are expected to actually do their job, instead of rubber-stamping propaganda pieces. Their work can be verified, and there are consequences to them engaging in fraud, and there's a chain of custody for the evidence they find.

Which is more than can be said for giving a bunch of politically-appointed teenagers read/write access to every single system in the government... Paired with a blanket immunity from prosecution.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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post #19

What's the biggest difference between a startup and a country? Aside from the obvious distinction, Musk has no experience running existing corporations with lots on the line to lose, he comes from move fast break things, great for a social media app, who gives a shit, great for literal moonshots, go big or go home. However when you manage something big, any upside from improving is weighed against its risk of degrada…

I think you hit the nail on the head. The president is a con man who larps as the richest person on the planet and his biggest accomplishment last term was a giant tax cut for the rich. The "actual" president is the richest man on earth and has a vested interest in destroying anything that can tax him or hold him / his businessess accountable in any way. Awfully convenient that the richest people in the world think t…

> The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

#189
post #16

Nuclear workers go where the work is…they are not going to wait around when there’s plenty of jobs out there needing their skills.

Can you explain? I must have the wrong impression, but isn't nuclear-related work specifically in the USA a declining or dying industry? Are there really plenty of jobs when Americans keep posturing away from nuclear? I knew no one from university interested in doing nuclear-related engineering for industry.

Data centers will pretty much absorb any person with military nuclear power experience, even cases of people who completely washed out of the program.

As for nuclear missile programs in this case, I'm pretty positive that field will still have similar desirable high points. Reliability, understanding procedures, actually understanding procedures to know when/how/why scripts are broken in some cases, and having such socially toxic work environment that even an Amazon job feels like fresh air.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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That isn't much of a point because federal employees are much more likely to return than Twitter technical staff. Interesting approach, specially because it's not my country.

>> federal employees are much more likely to return Not necessarily. It's generally understood that federal employees accept a lower salary in exchange for career stability. If a career as a federal employee now has higher risk then at least some people will be expecting a higher salary.

I think that incentive is part of the problem. Federal employees should get paid more with a reasonable expectation of being fired. The amount of people I know in government positions who give 0 consideration to the quality of their work because they know they won’t be fired astounds me.
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