At Defcon, hackers get their own private cell network: Ninja Tel

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Post by iProject » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 7:45 PM UTC

At Defcon, hackers get their own private cell network: Ninja Tel
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Post by patrickod » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 8:25 PM UTC

27C3, CCC Camp 2011, and 28C3 all had their own GSM networks as well. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/wiki/GSM#GSM_Network_at_2... It was really interesting talking to the crew running it and discovering how GSM works. Hopefully they'll be back this year at 29C3

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Post by sp332 » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 8:51 PM UTC

patrickod wrote: post #2

27C3, CCC Camp 2011, and 28C3 all had their own GSM networks as well. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/wiki/GSM#GSM_Network_at_2... It was really interesting talking to the crew running it and discovering how GSM works. Hopefully they'll be back this year at 29C3

Wow, I saw 27C3's little experiment but I didn't realize 28C3 had a network connected to the public phone infrastructure.

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Post by patrickod » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 9:39 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #3

patrickod wrote: post #2

27C3, CCC Camp 2011, and 28C3 all had their own GSM networks as well. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/wiki/GSM#GSM_Network_at_2... It was really interesting talking to the crew running it and discovering how GSM works. Hopefully they'll be back this year at 29C3

Wow, I saw 27C3's little experiment but I didn't realize 28C3 had a network connected to the public phone infrastructure.

Yep. For those like myself who didn't have a german SIM for the week it was very useful.

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Post by Pent » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 9:49 PM UTC

The only thing I could think of when I read that article is; how long until Coca-Cola sends a C&D against them for likeness of Ninja-Cola? Very interesting otherwise.

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Post by tonfa » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 11:57 PM UTC

patrickod wrote: post #2

27C3, CCC Camp 2011, and 28C3 all had their own GSM networks as well. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/wiki/GSM#GSM_Network_at_2... It was really interesting talking to the crew running it and discovering how GSM works. Hopefully they'll be back this year at 29C3

Also HAR and I believe Burning Man had GSM networks too.

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Post by joshmlewis » Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 12:04 AM UTC

Pent wrote: post #5

The only thing I could think of when I read that article is; how long until Coca-Cola sends a C&D against them for likeness of Ninja-Cola? Very interesting otherwise.

Unless their logo is like cokes, there are plenty of beverages that are called such and such cola. I might be wrong, but I don't think just cola is a big deal to them.

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Post by stox » Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 1:35 AM UTC

H.O.P.E. had its own GSM network, too. All it took to use was getting one of the customer SIM cards.

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Post by bsho » Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 2:09 AM UTC

tonfa wrote: post #6

patrickod wrote: post #2

27C3, CCC Camp 2011, and 28C3 all had their own GSM networks as well. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/wiki/GSM#GSM_Network_at_2... It was really interesting talking to the crew running it and discovering how GSM works. Hopefully they'll be back this year at 29C3

Also HAR and I believe Burning Man had GSM networks too.

Burning Man's GSM network used the GNU Radio project:

http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki

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