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iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by prodigal_erik »

rrbrambley wrote: post #5
antidoh wrote: post #2

Do we really want our information mediated/censored by this sort of corporate behavior?

Absolutely not. This is where the line is drawn. I've grown to accept Apple's App Store policies for the sake of keeping app quality high. However, when it comes to distributing content that people actually use to learn new things and enrich their lives, there is absolutely no room for this type of policy. To anyone who is selling their books via Apple: GTFO right now.

That line was crossed when you dealt with a vendor who could actively interfere with your dealings with other vendors, even before they chose to.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by brianwhitman »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #10
theevocater wrote: post #9

Is there any actual proof for this? The article mentions briefly that part of her book was the problem but I don't see any actual letters from apple or even an in depth explanation of what happened. Just some impassioned outrage. I'm not saying she is dishonest, maybe just misinformed or wrong. It seems like everytime stuff like this comes up it turns out there was important information left out.

Scroll down to "Previous Posts in this Discussion" and click the links. She goes through the whole thing, including the actual email from Apple.

Don't see any emails about the content block that she is referring to this post. I see emails about previous issues of her having links to Amazon in her ebooks. I am very curious about this, because I doubt just saying the word "Amazon" can really be an instant rejection -- and a quick search of the iBook store shows tons of books about Amazon itself, things like "How to Self Publish on the Amazon Kindle" et al.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by lukifer »

prodigal_erik wrote: post #11
rrbrambley wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely not. This is where the line is drawn. I've grown to accept Apple's App Store policies for the sake of keeping app quality high. However, when it comes to distributing content that people actually use to learn new things and enrich their lives, there is absolutely no room for this type of policy. To anyone who is selling their books via Apple: GTFO right now.

That line was crossed when you dealt with a vendor who could actively interfere with your dealings with other vendors, even before they chose to.

Not that this defends Apple, but strictly speaking, couldn't Amazon choose to do the reverse?

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by pooriaazimi »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #7
riobard wrote: post #4

The forced capitalization of the first word of submitted titles is becoming increasingly frustrating. Please do not second guess users!

Yep, that's a little annoying. You clearly see the problem, but for anyone who didn't: I did use "iBookstore" (with lower-case i) when I submitted the article, not "IBookstore".

Change the title to " iBookStore..." (with an space at the beginning).

see here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4306480

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by Turing_Machine »

brianwhitman wrote: post #13
Turing_Machine wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scroll down to "Previous Posts in this Discussion" and click the links. She goes through the whole thing, including the actual email from Apple.

Don't see any emails about the content block that she is referring to this post. I see emails about previous issues of her having links to Amazon in her ebooks. I am very curious about this, because I doubt just saying the word "Amazon" can really be an instant rejection -- and a quick search of the iBook store shows tons of books about Amazon itself, things like "How to Self Publish on the Amazon Kindle" et al.

"I doubt just saying the word "Amazon" can really be an instant rejection"

Neither she nor anyone else is claiming that, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by Turing_Machine »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #15
Turing_Machine wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, that's a little annoying. You clearly see the problem, but for anyone who didn't: I did use "iBookstore" (with lower-case i) when I submitted the article, not "IBookstore".

Change the title to " iBookStore..." (with an space at the beginning). see here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4306480

Thanks! Noted for future reference.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by prodigal_erik »

lukifer wrote: post #14
prodigal_erik wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That line was crossed when you dealt with a vendor who could actively interfere with your dealings with other vendors, even before they chose to.

Not that this defends Apple, but strictly speaking, couldn't Amazon choose to do the reverse?

For Kindle users that's true, which is the one and only reason I didn't buy.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by antidoh »

lukifer wrote: post #14
prodigal_erik wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That line was crossed when you dealt with a vendor who could actively interfere with your dealings with other vendors, even before they chose to.

Not that this defends Apple, but strictly speaking, couldn't Amazon choose to do the reverse?

Interesting thing is, traditional book publishers could do the same. Maybe they have, and we wouldn't be aware of it. My impression is that they mostly haven't and mostly wouldn't. I think Apple, Amazon et al. are particularly extractive, and they come at anything firstly from the point of view of how they can control and channel the experience, the level of focus being unique to them.

Re: iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon

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Post by davedx »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #16
brianwhitman wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't see any emails about the content block that she is referring to this post. I see emails about previous issues of her having links to Amazon in her ebooks. I am very curious about this, because I doubt just saying the word "Amazon" can really be an instant rejection -- and a quick search of the iBook store shows tons of books about Amazon itself, things like "How to Self Publish on the Amazon Kindle" et al.

"I doubt just saying the word "Amazon" can really be an instant rejection" Neither she nor anyone else is claiming that, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Huh? The link title says: "iBookstore rejects Holly Lisle's writing course because she mentions Amazon"
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