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Nobody dies if someone's taxes are wrong. Also, IRBs are not usually about lies, but about scientists not understanding the risks and solutions.
> Also, IRBs are not usually about lies, but about scientists not understanding the risks and solutions You have never submitted an IRB.
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> Also, IRBs are not usually about lies, but about scientists not understanding the risks and solutions You have never submitted an IRB.
Have I? Haven't I? Are you really saying that all these scientists - anyone doing human subject research at least in advanced democracies - are mostly liars trying to defraud people?
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I think this illustrates an issue in common law systems in general. Contrary to what we’re taught in school about how actions are generally legal by default, and only illegal if a law has been passed to prohibit them, in reality, actions exist in a superposition of legal and illegal until someone challenges that position and a court finds out (subject to any appeals). You can only evaluate in practice whether somethi…
And it's worth emphasizing that this is a good thing . Civil law systems (which are used in the non-English-speaking parts of Europe for example) don't have this property. In such systems, court precedents don't really exist, so if something isn't clearly defined by law, and there's no extremely ubiquitous legal interpretation that everybody seems to follow, you don't know whether it's legal or not. For example, the…
And eventual orange jumpsuit would be decided by the court, not tax authority.
IRBs are one of the most wasteful and hurtful institutions in the developing world today. In order to prevent a few possible ethical lapses, they smother hundreds of good potential research. See Scott Alexander's works on IRB review.
> In order to prevent a few possible ethical lapses, they smother hundreds of good potential research. Doesn't that describe all safety and security measures? Airport security wastes millions of hours in order to prevent a few possible problems. > ethical lapses That's quite a euphemism for death and bodily injury. I'm sure you wouldn't mind it yourself. There is plenty of evidence of what happens without IRBs - just…
And yes, airport security is also a colossal waste
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In my AP Statistics class, we had a few weeks after the test before school was out. We had to do a statistics project, and the teacher didn't particularly care what it was. We were checking which candy was most popular from a giant bowl, and went classroom to classroom just asking a randomly selected student to pick a piece of candy. We got 100% on the report, which included "We didn't inform the participants of and…
Maybe the professor was training you and didn't care about the value of your undergraduate study, which was almost certainly not worth the professor's time otherwise.
I was funded through a DARPA grant. It was definitely not a training exercise.