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Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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> intellectually stunted populace Case in point. Go out and meet some of these people and then report back.

You know nothing about me or where I come from. You're not making the point you think you are. You can lead a horse to water. It's not my job to encourage intellectual rigor. It's political leadership's. Pushing that burden onto imaginary everyday philosophers you've conjured up is futile.

Whose job is to pick a leadership that then values said rigor?

Since this is a feedback loop it's everyone's duty to help so it works as a virtuous cycle and not the poo-poo loop it has become.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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> Transportation that is not powered by one's own muscles can never be virtuous. ... unless said transportation puts users in close physical proximity to strangers, some of whom are loud or dangerous. Such transportation is very virtuous: the more numerous, dangerous, or annoying the strangers, the more virtuous the transportation. This exception is not applicable to transportation that flies or floats.

> loud or dangerous This seems to be mostly a US problem, I only really see people from the US worried about this... As someone from the UK who travels on two trains and a bus both ways (6 journeys total) most weekdays to university, I never had any problems with other passengers, I guess very occasionally there might be a loud baby or something but then you can just put headphones in, and the worst thing that ever h…

>he worst thing that ever happened to my property is my bag got accidentally handed into lost property when I wasn't paying attention

I've never heard of such a thing and I'd be horrified.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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EVs can be pretty bad for tire wear, not just due to vehicle weight, but the amount of torque available (and consistently available) that leaves most ICE vehicles in the dust. Depends on driving style of course

If you have an EV and you care about health and the environment, use regenerative braking as much as humanly possible. Hint: driving fast or tailgating both increase the odds you'll have to use the friction brakes.

This. I treat it as a failure if I have to brake. My original tires are still good after 3 years as well

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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I wonder about the larger context here, though. No matter what academic studies discover or examine, the rise of anti-intellectual culture suggests that we as a species are going to need to pivot to documentary efforts, in a hope that what we learn in isolation now survives to be acted on in a future, more exploratory, generation.

We could also try to fix the anti-intellectual culture instead of just griping about it and/or retreating. It didn't emerge out of thin air, it emerged as a reaction to a mostly-accurate sense among non-intellectuals (i.e., the people who make most of the world actually work) of being constantly condescended to by the intellectual class. What we need isn't to go all prepper for some kind of dark age, what we need is…

I mean step 1 would be raising wages at all levels, something that a capitalist economy is going to oppose at every step of the way as it limits capital acquisition and reduces investment returns.

To me it seems pretty obvious why someone making $40,000 a year doing some trade and/or taking off 1-2 decades of their lifespan and quality of life is pissed and opposed to the status quo when they see investors and capital owners and politicians making consistently brain dead decisions yet still raking in millions. Watching corporations buy out and legislate away small businesses and replacing them with corporate versions that cost more money while reducing their service capabilities and competence.

Its the luddite situation repeating over and over again. Groups of smart individuals working together build something greater, but someone at the top of the capital pile claims or buys all the credit while firing and replacing, or offshoring now, all the individuals who actually did the work and actual innovation, and economic imbalance results in turmoil and rage until it finally boils over and people start destroying looms. Because instead of all the auto-looms they built benefiting everyone, it mostly only benefits a handful of individuals who claimed ownership, while pushing everyone else in a race to the bottom as their old small business models get crushed by the legal and financial departments of the big cats.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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> loud or dangerous This seems to be mostly a US problem, I only really see people from the US worried about this... As someone from the UK who travels on two trains and a bus both ways (6 journeys total) most weekdays to university, I never had any problems with other passengers, I guess very occasionally there might be a loud baby or something but then you can just put headphones in, and the worst thing that ever h…

There are entire neighborhoods in the US where you are advised to keep your doors locked and never to stop at a stop sign or red light.

So you're better off flagrantly breaking traffic laws and possibly getting T-boned than having someone potentially break into your car? That seems like some combination of nonsense and there maybe being some places you should just avoid.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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Electric cars don't have electric car-specific tires. If you look at comparably sized cars the Model 3 is about the same. It's roughly the same size and weight as a BMW 3 series. And they're both around the size and weight of the average new car. It's small electric cars that typically weigh more, because making the car smaller isn't the main way to make the battery smaller; reducing the range is. So then nobody real…

> Electric cars don't have electric car-specific tires. Maybe they all don't but some do.

Popular current ones though?

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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This sounds similar to claims that cancer rates are increasing. Which is to say that it may be true but it’s a symptom of improvements. Cancer rates are increasing because people are living longer and dying less of other things. Similarly, a huge amount of work has been done to reduce the harms from car exhaust, and modern vehicles burn really cleanly. It’s no surprise that other factors start to become relatively mo…

Cancer rates are increasing in younger people in many types of cancer, likely due to increasing pollution. Some types of cancer are being seen in increasing numbers due to more people living longer.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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EVs can be pretty bad for tire wear, not just due to vehicle weight, but the amount of torque available (and consistently available) that leaves most ICE vehicles in the dust. Depends on driving style of course

If you have an EV and you care about health and the environment, use regenerative braking as much as humanly possible. Hint: driving fast or tailgating both increase the odds you'll have to use the friction brakes.

The problem is that not all cars correctly illuminate the brake lights when regenerative braking is in effect.

Re: Dust from car brakes more harmful than exhaust, study finds

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Regenerative braking has much less tire wear than traditional braking because it's done much more slowly and smoothly. Absent any evidence, I don't believe that claim. Unless you're skidding, I don't see how braking slowly and smoothly over a longer period causes any less tire wear than braking more rapidly for a shorter time. Additionally, since this is intrinsically tied to EVs, they weigh more and thus increase ti…

Slower braking is generally accepted to cause less brake pad wear. I was only able to find this article, but I'm sure more convincing evidence can be found if you do more research than the quick ddg and clicking on the first result I did. Hard Braking: Less experienced drivers often react late to situations, slamming on the brakes instead of slowing down gradually. This creates more friction and heat, reducing pad li…

The claim was tire wear, not brake wear.
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