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Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by bakugo »

LordKeren wrote: post #16
abc-1 wrote: post #8

This is a sign of the beginning of the end for them. When you’re rotten to the core you do things like this instead of actually innovating and creating new great products. It doesn’t end well long term.

No, not even close. Nintendo is not a VC funded startup fighting for their survival. The Nintendo switch 2 is right around the corner and looks like it is going to sell extremely well, after the massive success of the switch 1 Patents are not that expensive to file. They are not diverting any meaningful amount of cash flow to this. This is a side activity of a few employees

> The Nintendo switch 2 is right around the corner and looks like it is going to sell extremely well, after the massive success of the switch 1

Just like the Wii U sold extremely well after the massive success of the Wii.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by Natsu »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #21
torlok wrote: post #15

Looks like this patent is for capturing a virtual creature with a throwable item. The whole concept is obviously comical, but for additional laughs, this is an opportunity to check out how software patents are written. To quote: > A non-limiting example of a non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein a game program of the present non-limiting example is executed by a computer of an informat…

>Looks like this patent is for capturing a virtual creature with a throwable item. Pokemon came out 29 years ago. Even if you recognize this patent it should be expired rather than slightly tweaked and then extended. Thanks for the reminder to buy Palworld, Nintendo!

I wonder if they're going to assert it against games like World of Final Fantasy which had people throwing capture... cubes.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by lelandfe »

gamedever wrote: post #17

Blame the government. You shouldn't be allowed to patent game mechanics IMO. Nitnendo has (had) a patent on ghost cars (showing a ghost of your former performance in Mario Kart) Sega has (had) a patent on zooming between camera positions from Virtua Racing 1 Wizards of the Coast has a patent on card games similar to Magic the Gathering. I don't know what their actual patent is but I do know lots of companies paid the…

The patented game mechanic I am most bummed won’t be appearing in other games is Death Stranding’s desire pathing. Having other players in an open word “wear” paths into the map was extremely cool.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by dmoy »

analog31 wrote: post #19
agubelu wrote: post #4

So Nintendo is claiming patent infringement for a patent that was registered after Palworld was released? It seems a bit nonsensical, am I understanding it correctly?

I'm not a lawyer, but I have 20+ patents. There are some pathological situations where company A launches a product after Company B has applied for a patent, but before the patent is issued. Also, there are rules for prior art, related to the timing of when the prior art became known (through publication, release of a product, etc). It can get even more screwy when an inventor files for a patent in more than one coun…

> Things like "obviousness" and "prior art" can be hard to judge unless you're a patent lawyer... or a judge.

Yea, examiners will grant patents that might have no chance in court. So what tends to matter more is not whether someone has a patent, but whether it was successfully used in court.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by markus_zhang »

freedomben wrote: post #14

It seems truly absurd what you can patent nowadays. The system seems utterly broken for its original purpose which was to encourage ingenuity and inventiveness. It now does the exact opposite.

One easy solution is to give such talks in primary/middle schools so children stop buying Nintendo games. Give them all bad publicity.

I wouldn't care separating Nintendo lawyers and gamedevs. If the lawyers are shady then the whole thing is shady.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by atum47 »

Nintendo is a shitty company. They made some good games 30 years ago and that's it. All the shitty stuff they are pulling today makes me wish they fail more and more. Even back in the day they would do shitty things to third party developers, we just didn't knew about it. Sorry if this hurts your nostalgia but it is the truth.

I'll try to mention the previous shitty thing they did that was covered by the news every time a new topic is posted.

Previous one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42913914

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by idle_zealot »

markus_zhang wrote: post #35
freedomben wrote: post #14

It seems truly absurd what you can patent nowadays. The system seems utterly broken for its original purpose which was to encourage ingenuity and inventiveness. It now does the exact opposite.

One easy solution is to give such talks in primary/middle schools so children stop buying Nintendo games. Give them all bad publicity. I wouldn't care separating Nintendo lawyers and gamedevs. If the lawyers are shady then the whole thing is shady.

Ah, yes, that's how we solve pathological institutional problems. Use public education to convince kids not to play the video games they like.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by Zren »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #21
torlok wrote: post #15

Looks like this patent is for capturing a virtual creature with a throwable item. The whole concept is obviously comical, but for additional laughs, this is an opportunity to check out how software patents are written. To quote: > A non-limiting example of a non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein a game program of the present non-limiting example is executed by a computer of an informat…

>Looks like this patent is for capturing a virtual creature with a throwable item. Pokemon came out 29 years ago. Even if you recognize this patent it should be expired rather than slightly tweaked and then extended. Thanks for the reminder to buy Palworld, Nintendo!

The patent mentions the ability to aim the pokeball which wasn't in the first 3 Gameboy games.

Does modern Pokémon start battles by throwing a pokeball to release a monster to begin fighting?

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by runevault »

lelandfe wrote: post #33
gamedever wrote: post #17

Blame the government. You shouldn't be allowed to patent game mechanics IMO. Nitnendo has (had) a patent on ghost cars (showing a ghost of your former performance in Mario Kart) Sega has (had) a patent on zooming between camera positions from Virtua Racing 1 Wizards of the Coast has a patent on card games similar to Magic the Gathering. I don't know what their actual patent is but I do know lots of companies paid the…

The patented game mechanic I am most bummed won’t be appearing in other games is Death Stranding’s desire pathing. Having other players in an open word “wear” paths into the map was extremely cool.

I missed that one. For me it is the Nemesis System from Shadow of Mordor/War. They made 2 games and haven't done anything with it since but they still patented it.

Re: Nintendo Obtains New Anti-Palworld Patent and Seeks Even More

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Post by Andrex »

lelandfe wrote: post #33
gamedever wrote: post #17

Blame the government. You shouldn't be allowed to patent game mechanics IMO. Nitnendo has (had) a patent on ghost cars (showing a ghost of your former performance in Mario Kart) Sega has (had) a patent on zooming between camera positions from Virtua Racing 1 Wizards of the Coast has a patent on card games similar to Magic the Gathering. I don't know what their actual patent is but I do know lots of companies paid the…

The patented game mechanic I am most bummed won’t be appearing in other games is Death Stranding’s desire pathing. Having other players in an open word “wear” paths into the map was extremely cool.

Sounds like Animal Crossing City Folk's much-hated "animal tracks," which they ditched the very next game because everyone hated them lol.

It's interesting to see that mechanic is desirable in a different context.

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